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Message:: [QUOTE="desertgem, post: 700764, member: 15199"]This is similar to the AT/NT idea of putting coins into a cardboard album to tone. What is the intent. In the above ads, when you look at their other listings, it is plain that they are well aware of what they are listing and intended to pick or leave out certain wording. But to go to the other end of the scale, do we expect an ad that says " This is only a 1955/5 Poor Man's deteriorated die  "Doubled Die", not the real one, this one is just worth $1.00 but I want $5.00 or more for it. This is peanuts when one sees how much money the public and new collectors lose to the Coin World, Coinage, NN, etc., Big page-Big time dealers that advertise and sell BU coins when they darn well know they are AU. I bet almost every collector at one time ( nearly 40 years ago for me, Mount Vernon Ad) has fallen trap to this. Subjective wording compared to subjective grading. You can be passionate for or against it, but you can not eliminate it. When the chance is that you will get taken by old time firms, what chance is there in any auction venue unless you have the knowledge to determine grade or validity yourself. I get flustered when I see an ad for a 1972 Lincoln Doubled Die, where the TPG label states only FS# 33.52, and it is not noted as being Die #2, and many sellers have a no return policy on TPG slabbed coins. Jim[/QUOTE]