What did PCGS grade this 1921 Standing Liberty Quarter??

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  1. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    Hi Ruben. If PCGS did not Notation the " scratch" than it's not a "scratch" ?
     
    coinman0456, Jun 1, 2009
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  3. mrbrklyn

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    You tell me. It looks like a scratch to me.

    Ruben
     
    mrbrklyn, Jun 1, 2009
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  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Not so, a scratch is a scratch and always will be. But PCGS conveniently "chooses" to ignore scratches and other forms of damage sometimes. Particularly when the coin is a key or scarce date, or the coin is worth enough money. This is a cold hard fact, not an opinion.

    Other times it is a matter of severity or degree - such as this scratch is not bad enough to warrant body-bagging the coin. Problem is, there is no consistency with this policy. Put that same scratch on a common date SLQ of the same grade and it would be body-bagged every time. Put it on that coin and it is ignored. Same can be said about the coins of any series. And anybody that has been around long enough has certainly seen it a thousand times.
     
    GDJMSP, Jun 2, 2009
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  5. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Doug , would NGC ignore the same scratch , in other words are they any better ?
    Rusty
     
    rzage, Jun 2, 2009
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  6. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I do not agree....

    That scratch (or a circulation mark, which is what it looks like to my eye) doesn't look bad enough to cause a bodybag, IMO. It's obviously from the time the coin was in circulation, as opposed to a new/fresh scratch -- which are more problematic when viewed by TPGs.

    All IMO...Mike
     
    Leadfoot, Jun 2, 2009
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  7. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    1921 slq

    PCGS conveniently "chooses" to ignore scratches and other forms of damage sometimes. Particularly when the coin is a key or scarce date, or the coin is worth enough money.

    True enough, I am aware that they approach key date grading more leniently.

    I was curious if LD might have had some notation from them regarding that disturbance point. Evidently not, although he did say it looks quite less disturbing in hand than the photo suggests. I actually thought a better " market grade" would have been attributed. :eek:dd:
     
    coinman0456, Jun 2, 2009
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  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I think a little yes, but they too make allowances for keys. They all do. Personally, I do not think that allowances should be made when it comes to grading because of rarity, pedigree or value.
     
    GDJMSP, Jun 3, 2009
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  9. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    I agree...
    Rusty, you had a post on this yourself, about that indian head penny, that was graded F15... And looked like a G/VG at best..
    This is true, on key date, or semi key, they will give "free passes" on things seen.
    I personally, don't think this scratch is all that bad, and I'd buy this coin, with the scratch, but of course, I'd much rather have a coin, without the scratch.
     
    tmoneyeagles, Jun 3, 2009
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  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I have no doubt that the mark occurred while the coin was in circulation. Call it a scratch, a cut, a gouge - call it whatever you like. The point is that the mark damages the surface of the coin. And I don't think that you or anyone else can even remotely think that it was caused by another coin Mike. Something sharp cut the surface of that coin plain and simple.

    I do agree that it is up to a question of severity, and on that count yes it boils down to personal opinion and you are entitled to yours.
     
    GDJMSP, Jun 3, 2009
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