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<p>[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1625625, member: 41665"]I only corrected this, because the "3 рубли на серебро" was valued in PAPER ROUBLES at a fluctuating agio for Platinum against Paper, until 1832/3. </p><p><br /></p><p>In 1828, "3 рубли на серебро" (10.34 g; 0.3324 ozt.) = £0.475 (late 1828 - February 1829: "nearly ten shillings in silver") ~ 11 рубли (Assignat/Paper). </p><p>The market price for Platinum Roubles fell after the Winter 1830/1831, it appears. Merchant handbooks warned (foreigners) not to take them in exchange !</p><p><br /></p><p>In Early (April?) 1831, the American minerologist James Dickson of New Brunswick NJ reported on Platinum production to date: "Though many hundred pounds weight of platina are coined monthly, into <b>pieces of 11 and 22 rubles </b>{3- and 6-Rouble Coins} they disappear rapidly from the circulation. They may be met with occasionally, and a few at a time, in the hands of the brokers. I consider their price much above the London price of malleable platina, which is at present about 25 shillings English per ounce : considering that the crude platina is the produce of the country, the Russian price for malleable platina, which is about 28s., is too extravagant; and yet this does not arise from the expense of manufacturing, but from the cost of the material itself, which is far higher than the platina of South America." </p><p><br /></p><p>Dickson also cited the (crude) platina price at "~£ 1.00/ozt" (£ 0.9489/ozt) </p><p><br /></p><p>But<b> by 1832/3 the scrap price in St. Peterburg had fallen to £ 0.3189/ozt.</b> The Silver Rouble was 1: 3.6775 in Paper (3-Roubles in Silver = 11.03 рубли Paper) so intrinsically, the Platinum 3-Rouble (2.41 рубли Paper) <b>= 0.65 рубли Silver.</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b><u>This is significant because it might be THE ONLY TIME (in recorded history) WHEN A PRECIOUS METAL MONEY WAS REJECTED for Fiat Paper, 'more valuable' by preference & generally.</u></b></p><p><b><u><br /></u></b></p><p><b><u></u></b>A very, very extraordinary situation... and probably <i>only in Russia</i>.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1625625, member: 41665"]I only corrected this, because the "3 рубли на серебро" was valued in PAPER ROUBLES at a fluctuating agio for Platinum against Paper, until 1832/3. In 1828, "3 рубли на серебро" (10.34 g; 0.3324 ozt.) = £0.475 (late 1828 - February 1829: "nearly ten shillings in silver") ~ 11 рубли (Assignat/Paper). The market price for Platinum Roubles fell after the Winter 1830/1831, it appears. Merchant handbooks warned (foreigners) not to take them in exchange ! In Early (April?) 1831, the American minerologist James Dickson of New Brunswick NJ reported on Platinum production to date: "Though many hundred pounds weight of platina are coined monthly, into [B]pieces of 11 and 22 rubles [/B]{3- and 6-Rouble Coins} they disappear rapidly from the circulation. They may be met with occasionally, and a few at a time, in the hands of the brokers. I consider their price much above the London price of malleable platina, which is at present about 25 shillings English per ounce : considering that the crude platina is the produce of the country, the Russian price for malleable platina, which is about 28s., is too extravagant; and yet this does not arise from the expense of manufacturing, but from the cost of the material itself, which is far higher than the platina of South America." Dickson also cited the (crude) platina price at "~£ 1.00/ozt" (£ 0.9489/ozt) But[B] by 1832/3 the scrap price in St. Peterburg had fallen to £ 0.3189/ozt.[/B] The Silver Rouble was 1: 3.6775 in Paper (3-Roubles in Silver = 11.03 рубли Paper) so intrinsically, the Platinum 3-Rouble (2.41 рубли Paper) [B]= 0.65 рубли Silver. [U]This is significant because it might be THE ONLY TIME (in recorded history) WHEN A PRECIOUS METAL MONEY WAS REJECTED for Fiat Paper, 'more valuable' by preference & generally. [/U][/B]A very, very extraordinary situation... and probably [I]only in Russia[/I].[/QUOTE]
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