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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 7787772, member: 24314"]Mac McDonald, posted: "Well...what have we learned, here...? "It's an error"..."it's not an error"..."it's an error"..."it's not an error"...etc, etc. Understand debate and disagreement, differing opinions, et al, but maybe it doesn't really matter. If it does matter for some reason, what do the almighty TPGs have to say about it, what it is, etc...? Bet between themselves and even internally, they differ/disagree, also...so back to square one...! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie101" alt=":woot:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>IMO, only someone who cannot read will return to square one. I believe that the two members throwing spit balls in this thread are in 100% agreement! Ideally, the Mint wishes to produce a perfectly made coin in all its attributes. That is extremely hard to do considering the numbers of coins they make. Therefore, IMO, <b>anything out of the norm can be considered a mint error. </b> We have been writing about a coin made with splits in the copper plating. The coin is abnormal and therefore it is an error. I believe these are referred to a "plating ERRORS." The disagreement between us is because making a big thing about about split plating IMO, is off track. Explain what it is and how it happens. Then let folks collect it while the market puts a value on it - currently not much.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>JCro57, posted "Insider (Skip),</p><p><br /></p><p>You never disappoint when it comes to being cocky, rude, and with an extra helping of condescending arrogance. [<i><span style="color: #660033">Thank you, but I don't deserve to be described in the same way Joe Namath was before he won the Super Bowl</span></i>]. Thankfully the real professionals both in the nature of their work and personalities in the "error-sphere" - Fred, Jon S., Ken Potter, Mike Diamond, etc. - are nothing like you and promote the hobby with their genuine kindness and sense of purpose.</p><p><br /></p><p>And for the record, perhaps you should focus less on being cocky and spend more time learning how to identify a genuine unplated cent. The one below is perhaps the easiest call one could make, yet it got slabbed as genuine. Several more from ICG exist in genuine slabs as well.</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">Before making any more ignorant assumptions, you should know that I don't have the final word on minting errors. I have learned NOT to certify any unplated cents unless they have a frosty original as struck surface.</span></i></p><p><br /></p><p>At least I have the confidence to accept my analysis is simply an opinion - a way to provide a little more clarity to identify and catalog errors. I don't get mad if someone chooses not to accept my view on things. I also am humble enough to admit when I am proven wrong. True learning is acknowledging and accepting one's mistakes, and to move forward with the benefit of the overall learning experience. </p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">This paragraph describes me also you've saved me a lot of my time </span></i></p><p><br /></p><p>As far as that "Talent on Loan from God," well, you might need a little more humility in your life than talent.</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">So, rather than condemning a coin in a slab that you never had the chance to examine in-hand, perhaps you can actually add something to this thread besides a book advertisement <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />D<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> I shall get a copy for the office). </span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033"><br /></span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">Now, will you please tell all of us <b>EACH STEP</b> you go through to authenticate an unplated/part plated Zinc cent when you actually have one in hand. Then, I'm sure we all would appreciate knowing why the coin you feature as an altered coin in an ICG slab is not genuine. </span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033"><br /></span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">PS I've tagged you on another thread and hope you will add your comments.</span></i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 7787772, member: 24314"]Mac McDonald, posted: "Well...what have we learned, here...? "It's an error"..."it's not an error"..."it's an error"..."it's not an error"...etc, etc. Understand debate and disagreement, differing opinions, et al, but maybe it doesn't really matter. If it does matter for some reason, what do the almighty TPGs have to say about it, what it is, etc...? Bet between themselves and even internally, they differ/disagree, also...so back to square one...! :woot: IMO, only someone who cannot read will return to square one. I believe that the two members throwing spit balls in this thread are in 100% agreement! Ideally, the Mint wishes to produce a perfectly made coin in all its attributes. That is extremely hard to do considering the numbers of coins they make. Therefore, IMO, [B]anything out of the norm can be considered a mint error. [/B] We have been writing about a coin made with splits in the copper plating. The coin is abnormal and therefore it is an error. I believe these are referred to a "plating ERRORS." The disagreement between us is because making a big thing about about split plating IMO, is off track. Explain what it is and how it happens. Then let folks collect it while the market puts a value on it - currently not much. JCro57, posted "Insider (Skip), You never disappoint when it comes to being cocky, rude, and with an extra helping of condescending arrogance. [[I][COLOR=#660033]Thank you, but I don't deserve to be described in the same way Joe Namath was before he won the Super Bowl[/COLOR][/I]]. Thankfully the real professionals both in the nature of their work and personalities in the "error-sphere" - Fred, Jon S., Ken Potter, Mike Diamond, etc. - are nothing like you and promote the hobby with their genuine kindness and sense of purpose. And for the record, perhaps you should focus less on being cocky and spend more time learning how to identify a genuine unplated cent. The one below is perhaps the easiest call one could make, yet it got slabbed as genuine. Several more from ICG exist in genuine slabs as well. [I][COLOR=#660033]Before making any more ignorant assumptions, you should know that I don't have the final word on minting errors. I have learned NOT to certify any unplated cents unless they have a frosty original as struck surface.[/COLOR][/I] At least I have the confidence to accept my analysis is simply an opinion - a way to provide a little more clarity to identify and catalog errors. I don't get mad if someone chooses not to accept my view on things. I also am humble enough to admit when I am proven wrong. True learning is acknowledging and accepting one's mistakes, and to move forward with the benefit of the overall learning experience. [I][COLOR=#660033]This paragraph describes me also you've saved me a lot of my time [/COLOR][/I] As far as that "Talent on Loan from God," well, you might need a little more humility in your life than talent. [I][COLOR=#660033]So, rather than condemning a coin in a slab that you never had the chance to examine in-hand, perhaps you can actually add something to this thread besides a book advertisement :)D:p I shall get a copy for the office). Now, will you please tell all of us [B]EACH STEP[/B] you go through to authenticate an unplated/part plated Zinc cent when you actually have one in hand. Then, I'm sure we all would appreciate knowing why the coin you feature as an altered coin in an ICG slab is not genuine. PS I've tagged you on another thread and hope you will add your comments.[/COLOR][/I][/QUOTE]
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