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<p>[QUOTE="JCro57, post: 7781424, member: 92083"][USER=24314]@Insider[/USER]</p><p><br /></p><p>I am trying to actually get what you think here because it appears you are debating yourself. First you say you "draw the line" at calling some error types like "weak strikes" Mint errors, then you say in the big picture you "agree with me" that they are errors (or was it just split plating you were referring to?) In any event, which is it, Pal?</p><p><br /></p><p>I notice you included "weak strikes" among the many error types where you "draw the line" and feel these aren't real errors. Just curious here. Why? A weak strike is from either weak striking pressure despite proper die clearance, proper striking pressure but the die clearance was too great, or I suppose weak striking pressure and excessive die clearance combined. These are not at all common and can be worth huge money, and they're not in the same category as minor die chips, cracks, or split-plating errors. (Sullivan sold a JFK bicentennial for $450 and a Mercury dime for $1,200.) So other than you apparently "don't like" them, provide a good case as why they shouldn't be errors?</p><p><br /></p><p>Also, never did I ever say or write in this thread nor anywhere else that split-plating doubling on cents is valuable or desirable. (I am an avid error collector, and I hate split-plate doubling on my zinc cent errors, though sometimes it can look neat and create ghost profiles.) I have never lead a single person to believe that these are anything special. In fact, I cover that point specifically in the book I wrote about Mint errors. <i><b>So why are you belaboring on a point I never made and don't agree with?</b></i> However, that doesn't mean it isn't a Mint error. Personally, I don't see the big deal with rotated dies - even those with perfect medallic alignment - but I don't just discount those as not real errors by <i>drawing some imaginary line.</i></p><p><br /></p><p>On a different note, many collectors in this hobby have very modest budgets - especially kids starting out in this hobby. Many can't afford $50 to spend on a coin, and they shouldn't be told a cool die crack, a minor misaligned die, or a freaky die chip they found in circulation is nothing but garbage, or that because it is so common it isn't really a Mint error. (Can you think of a better way to disillusion and turn off a new collector?) I always make a point to tell that person it's neat to find these, but understand because they are so easy to find they don't hold much (if any) collector value. </p><p><br /></p><p>(I am certain you said more than once that you really don't care for error coins or something like that. If I am wrong, I apologize for that.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Lastly, allow me to give you some advice: If you want to be condescending to me in your responses (which you seem to do tirelessly and with much pride within this forum), make sure you work a little harder and hit it out of the ballpark when directed at me. I'm not your average uninformed dummy, and the pulse of air from your "swing-and-a-miss" attempt was felt from Tampa all the way up here in Buffalo, NY. I appreciate wit, dry humor, and sarcasm any day of the week, but clearly these aren't your motivation in many of your posts. I might add it's not a good look for someone representing a grading company when you are actually supposed to be attracting clients.</p><p><br /></p><p>~JC[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="JCro57, post: 7781424, member: 92083"][USER=24314]@Insider[/USER] I am trying to actually get what you think here because it appears you are debating yourself. First you say you "draw the line" at calling some error types like "weak strikes" Mint errors, then you say in the big picture you "agree with me" that they are errors (or was it just split plating you were referring to?) In any event, which is it, Pal? I notice you included "weak strikes" among the many error types where you "draw the line" and feel these aren't real errors. Just curious here. Why? A weak strike is from either weak striking pressure despite proper die clearance, proper striking pressure but the die clearance was too great, or I suppose weak striking pressure and excessive die clearance combined. These are not at all common and can be worth huge money, and they're not in the same category as minor die chips, cracks, or split-plating errors. (Sullivan sold a JFK bicentennial for $450 and a Mercury dime for $1,200.) So other than you apparently "don't like" them, provide a good case as why they shouldn't be errors? Also, never did I ever say or write in this thread nor anywhere else that split-plating doubling on cents is valuable or desirable. (I am an avid error collector, and I hate split-plate doubling on my zinc cent errors, though sometimes it can look neat and create ghost profiles.) I have never lead a single person to believe that these are anything special. In fact, I cover that point specifically in the book I wrote about Mint errors. [I][B]So why are you belaboring on a point I never made and don't agree with?[/B][/I] However, that doesn't mean it isn't a Mint error. Personally, I don't see the big deal with rotated dies - even those with perfect medallic alignment - but I don't just discount those as not real errors by [I]drawing some imaginary line.[/I] On a different note, many collectors in this hobby have very modest budgets - especially kids starting out in this hobby. Many can't afford $50 to spend on a coin, and they shouldn't be told a cool die crack, a minor misaligned die, or a freaky die chip they found in circulation is nothing but garbage, or that because it is so common it isn't really a Mint error. (Can you think of a better way to disillusion and turn off a new collector?) I always make a point to tell that person it's neat to find these, but understand because they are so easy to find they don't hold much (if any) collector value. (I am certain you said more than once that you really don't care for error coins or something like that. If I am wrong, I apologize for that.) Lastly, allow me to give you some advice: If you want to be condescending to me in your responses (which you seem to do tirelessly and with much pride within this forum), make sure you work a little harder and hit it out of the ballpark when directed at me. I'm not your average uninformed dummy, and the pulse of air from your "swing-and-a-miss" attempt was felt from Tampa all the way up here in Buffalo, NY. I appreciate wit, dry humor, and sarcasm any day of the week, but clearly these aren't your motivation in many of your posts. I might add it's not a good look for someone representing a grading company when you are actually supposed to be attracting clients. ~JC[/QUOTE]
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