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<p>[QUOTE="NorthKorea, post: 1134455, member: 29643"]Thad & Doug, thank you for your remarks.</p><p> </p><p>In this context, since it can't be saved, is there any benefit to dipping the coin? I mean, if no collector would want it in the current condition, I might as well just keep it so long as the chemical reaction won't continue to degrade the coin over time, right? I like how it looks. That's a personal thing.</p><p><br /></p><p>I mean, if it won't hurt the coin _more_ to leave it how it is, I'd prefer just leaving it, then when I get tired of it, the next owner could clean it if they didn't like the spots.</p><p><br /></p><p>Again, my intent goes in the following order (given ideal conditions):</p><p><br /></p><p>1) Keep the pretty spotting while stopping the reaction while the coin is still a coin.</p><p>2) If I can't do #1, do whatever is necessary to stop the reaction.</p><p><br /></p><p>#2 is highly dependent upon collectibility and numismatic preservation of the coin. If it's already in a state where it can't be saved, I don't understand the need to preserve it. Does that make sense?</p><p><br /></p><p>Or are you saying that the damage done can't be reversed, but the process is ongoing? If that's the case, then I would understand why I'd have to dip the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>Again, I'm not trying to improve the value of the coin. I'm merely trying to prevent it from losing any more, if that makes any sense at all.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also, this is specifically to the concept/aspect of dipping. The reason I think Doug's (?) idea holds merit is I received a coin with only a black obverse and a clean reverse from the same batch. Now understanding the concept of the household cleaner, this is my theory of what happened:</p><p><br /></p><p>Coins were in some sort of binder fully exposed to some sort of thing (let's call it air, though it might be something else) that toned black on the exposed (obverse) side. After an attempt at cleaning the first coin and getting the Easter egg speckling (which destroyed the luster and caused permanent damage), the coin dealer the coins were bought from informed the individual that they shouldn't clean coins. So, they stopped and put the coin back into storage. Time passes, he passes, his daughter gets the coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>That being what it is, the coins are now in my possession and as a numismatic hobbyist, a part of me believes I should do my best to preserve what's left of the coin for future generations. Then, there's the part of me that just finds the entire concept of speckled coins to be funny! So, that brings me up to the current moment.</p><p><br /></p><p>If I get this "E-Z-est" thing, which do I use? Is it the "E-Z-Est Speedip" or the "E-Z-Est Coin Cleaner" that I see advertised on some dealer sites? What justifies the use of this coin solution? Does it remove all the black from coins?</p><p><br /></p><p>Also, the Speedip product doesn't seem exactly safe. MSDS recommends PVC gloves and apron when using due to sulphuric acid content (I'm assuming).</p><p><br /></p><p>The last thing I was wondering, how does this not constitute alteration of the coin? I mean, if I'm dipping it, isn't that altering the surface?</p><p><br /></p><p>Again, these aren't meant to be argumentative, but moreso inquisitive. I'll probably have to find this stuff at a coin shop or industrial supplier locally since the USPS only allows for the tiny containers to be shipped.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="NorthKorea, post: 1134455, member: 29643"]Thad & Doug, thank you for your remarks. In this context, since it can't be saved, is there any benefit to dipping the coin? I mean, if no collector would want it in the current condition, I might as well just keep it so long as the chemical reaction won't continue to degrade the coin over time, right? I like how it looks. That's a personal thing. I mean, if it won't hurt the coin _more_ to leave it how it is, I'd prefer just leaving it, then when I get tired of it, the next owner could clean it if they didn't like the spots. Again, my intent goes in the following order (given ideal conditions): 1) Keep the pretty spotting while stopping the reaction while the coin is still a coin. 2) If I can't do #1, do whatever is necessary to stop the reaction. #2 is highly dependent upon collectibility and numismatic preservation of the coin. If it's already in a state where it can't be saved, I don't understand the need to preserve it. Does that make sense? Or are you saying that the damage done can't be reversed, but the process is ongoing? If that's the case, then I would understand why I'd have to dip the coin. Again, I'm not trying to improve the value of the coin. I'm merely trying to prevent it from losing any more, if that makes any sense at all. Also, this is specifically to the concept/aspect of dipping. The reason I think Doug's (?) idea holds merit is I received a coin with only a black obverse and a clean reverse from the same batch. Now understanding the concept of the household cleaner, this is my theory of what happened: Coins were in some sort of binder fully exposed to some sort of thing (let's call it air, though it might be something else) that toned black on the exposed (obverse) side. After an attempt at cleaning the first coin and getting the Easter egg speckling (which destroyed the luster and caused permanent damage), the coin dealer the coins were bought from informed the individual that they shouldn't clean coins. So, they stopped and put the coin back into storage. Time passes, he passes, his daughter gets the coins. That being what it is, the coins are now in my possession and as a numismatic hobbyist, a part of me believes I should do my best to preserve what's left of the coin for future generations. Then, there's the part of me that just finds the entire concept of speckled coins to be funny! So, that brings me up to the current moment. If I get this "E-Z-est" thing, which do I use? Is it the "E-Z-Est Speedip" or the "E-Z-Est Coin Cleaner" that I see advertised on some dealer sites? What justifies the use of this coin solution? Does it remove all the black from coins? Also, the Speedip product doesn't seem exactly safe. MSDS recommends PVC gloves and apron when using due to sulphuric acid content (I'm assuming). The last thing I was wondering, how does this not constitute alteration of the coin? I mean, if I'm dipping it, isn't that altering the surface? Again, these aren't meant to be argumentative, but moreso inquisitive. I'll probably have to find this stuff at a coin shop or industrial supplier locally since the USPS only allows for the tiny containers to be shipped.[/QUOTE]
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