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<p>[QUOTE="sand, post: 8109002, member: 118540"]This is an interesting topic to me. A topic which gets close to the heart of why people collect ancients, in my opinion.</p><p>I have bought several ancient coins, which were in NGC Ancients slabs. I broke all of the coins out of the slabs. I like to touch the coins. I like to look at the edges of the coins. I like to be able to put lots of coins in a single tray, so I can view them all at the same time.</p><p>However, NGC Ancients slabs have value to me, for authentication, attribution, and identifying things like tooling and smoothing.</p><p>I disregard the grade information (overall grade, strike grade, and surface grade) on the NGC Ancients slab.</p><p>The ancients experts at NGC Ancients seem to be very expert at authenticating ancient coins. Therefore, I highly value their opinions about the authenticity of ancient coins, as well as their opinions about tooling, smoothing, etc.</p><p>I don't know anything, about the expertise of other ancient coin slab companies (ANACS, etc).</p><p>For the rest of my post, when I say "slab", I mean "NGC Ancients slab".</p><p>However, I wish that NGC Ancients also sold certificates of authenticity (COAs), in which each COA had photos of the coin, as well as a lookup number, so that anyone could lookup high resolution photos of the coin on the NGC Ancients web site. For me, that would be better, than a slab.</p><p>I know that NGC Ancients issues COAs for coins that cannot be slabbed (if the coins are too large, or too irregular in shape, etc). But I wish NGC Ancients offered COAs for all ancient coins.</p><p>Each ancient coin looks different, because of the style, the flan, the strike, and the wear. Therefore, a COA would be better than a slab, for me, because I could lookup the photos of the coin on the NGC web site, to verify the authenticity of the coin. And if someone altered the coin, then I think it would be obvious, by comparing the coin, versus the photos on the NGC web site.</p><p>Before I break an ancient coin out of a slab, I take photos of both sides of the slab, so that I have the lookup number.</p><p>I have only been collecting ancients for 3 years. And I'm sort of a generalist. I collect many areas of ancients. Therefore, I'm sort of a jack of all trades, master of none, when it comes to ancients.</p><p>Therefore, usually, I don't trust myself, to be able to authenticate an ancient coin, from seller photos alone. I think I can weed out bad fakes. But I don't think I can weed out good fakes.</p><p>If the coin is inexpensive, then I don't mind taking a chance on a coin, based on seller photos alone, even on Ebay or Heritage Auctions.</p><p>But if the coin is expensive, then I prefer to do one of the following :</p><p>1. Buy from a seller who has a good reputation as an expert in authenticating ancient coins.</p><p>2. Buy a coin, which has a provenance, in which I can find photos of the coin on sites such as ACsearch, which has a record that the coin was sold by a seller who has a good reputation as an expert in authenticating ancient coins.</p><p>3. Buy a coin in an NGC Ancients slab.</p><p>For example, I would buy an expensive coin from Heritage Auctions, but only if the coin were in a slab.</p><p>However, CNG Auctions has a good reputation as a seller who is expert in authenticating ancient coins, therefore I would buy an expensive unslabbed ancient coin from CNG.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="sand, post: 8109002, member: 118540"]This is an interesting topic to me. A topic which gets close to the heart of why people collect ancients, in my opinion. I have bought several ancient coins, which were in NGC Ancients slabs. I broke all of the coins out of the slabs. I like to touch the coins. I like to look at the edges of the coins. I like to be able to put lots of coins in a single tray, so I can view them all at the same time. However, NGC Ancients slabs have value to me, for authentication, attribution, and identifying things like tooling and smoothing. I disregard the grade information (overall grade, strike grade, and surface grade) on the NGC Ancients slab. The ancients experts at NGC Ancients seem to be very expert at authenticating ancient coins. Therefore, I highly value their opinions about the authenticity of ancient coins, as well as their opinions about tooling, smoothing, etc. I don't know anything, about the expertise of other ancient coin slab companies (ANACS, etc). For the rest of my post, when I say "slab", I mean "NGC Ancients slab". However, I wish that NGC Ancients also sold certificates of authenticity (COAs), in which each COA had photos of the coin, as well as a lookup number, so that anyone could lookup high resolution photos of the coin on the NGC Ancients web site. For me, that would be better, than a slab. I know that NGC Ancients issues COAs for coins that cannot be slabbed (if the coins are too large, or too irregular in shape, etc). But I wish NGC Ancients offered COAs for all ancient coins. Each ancient coin looks different, because of the style, the flan, the strike, and the wear. Therefore, a COA would be better than a slab, for me, because I could lookup the photos of the coin on the NGC web site, to verify the authenticity of the coin. And if someone altered the coin, then I think it would be obvious, by comparing the coin, versus the photos on the NGC web site. Before I break an ancient coin out of a slab, I take photos of both sides of the slab, so that I have the lookup number. I have only been collecting ancients for 3 years. And I'm sort of a generalist. I collect many areas of ancients. Therefore, I'm sort of a jack of all trades, master of none, when it comes to ancients. Therefore, usually, I don't trust myself, to be able to authenticate an ancient coin, from seller photos alone. I think I can weed out bad fakes. But I don't think I can weed out good fakes. If the coin is inexpensive, then I don't mind taking a chance on a coin, based on seller photos alone, even on Ebay or Heritage Auctions. But if the coin is expensive, then I prefer to do one of the following : 1. Buy from a seller who has a good reputation as an expert in authenticating ancient coins. 2. Buy a coin, which has a provenance, in which I can find photos of the coin on sites such as ACsearch, which has a record that the coin was sold by a seller who has a good reputation as an expert in authenticating ancient coins. 3. Buy a coin in an NGC Ancients slab. For example, I would buy an expensive coin from Heritage Auctions, but only if the coin were in a slab. However, CNG Auctions has a good reputation as a seller who is expert in authenticating ancient coins, therefore I would buy an expensive unslabbed ancient coin from CNG.[/QUOTE]
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