What about eBay?

Discussion in 'Frequently Asked Questions' started by jody526, Jan 30, 2005.

  1. bigdeals_au

    bigdeals_au Junior Member

    Absolutely right!

    You bet. I have not been selling on eBay for the past months and will not resume in future. The time and cost for imaging, listing and postage risks with paypal chargebacks. I have been robbed dozen times! In auction houses, no one force you to start at 99c nor do you get ripoff by paypal fraud buyers because you get paid cash for what you sell less fees of course. All you have to do is consign to them and sit back relax and watch it sell, if not, instruct them to put it in next auction, makes sense? I was foolish not to realize this for 5 years but thank god I do now!
     
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  3. History_Chick

    History_Chick Member

    I drag my feet every time I have to post my items on ebay. I hate it, but my stepfather loves doing ebay. But I'll be honest I don't think its worth it. About five years ago you could get good money for your stuff. That isn't the case anymore. I struggle to sell items and frankly I don't think its worth my time to deal witha 20 dollar item because there are paypal, ebay fees, and then I have to take my time to wrap it, take it to the post office etc. etc.

    I've had good and bad luck with local auction houses. But I think I need to sell the right stuff.
     
  4. SNDMN59

    SNDMN59 New Member

    I agree with History Chick 100%
    I Signed up for Pay Pal last week thinking of selling on E-bay , but only 1 free picture $ for this & that changed my mind quick
    your profit is gone.
    The website I use may not be as popular as the other one
    But it has it's good points
    No limit of listings
    4 Photos free
    Web page easy to set up
    Only cost to get yor domain name $ and get verified
    You are not required to take those other payment unless you want to
    I have only acceppted check and postal money orders until last week and something like 260 sales since end of dec.
    As said this is not my main hobby just a pastime
    So I can list and wait it out & buy more coins and supplies with the money I'm saving
    Sandy
     
  5. rarecoinabc

    rarecoinabc New Member

    Excellent! I offten goto this fourm. Thank you
     
  6. rush2112

    rush2112 Junior Member

    After being very bitter with ebay and after many months, I finally listed a 1937 uncirculated banknote. In my listing, I stated that for bidders without 5 or more feedbacks contact me first. Sure enough, there appears a bidder with no feedback and bid.
    In case others don't know, these people do this to give the impression that the item is being shilled thus making serious buyers back out of bidding, allowing the guy with no feedback to pay far less for your item than it is worth.
    I cancelled his bid and sure enough someone else with only 3 feedbacks shows up with a bid and wins the auction. I refused to sell him the note, believing he was the same bidder I had previously cancelled.
    Long story short, I was left a negative feedback and once again had my reputation tarnished by a someone who is allowed to manipulate the system.
     
  7. Numismania

    Numismania You hockey puck!!

    Given the exposure to the fully registered ebay base, I agre totally. The expenses are still cheaper (or comparable at worst) than seller's fees at other auction venues, such as Teletrade, Heritage, for example. And, you do get your money faster from an ebay sale.
     
  8. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    Uh, you refused to sell him the note because he won it and you didn't like the fact that someone with sub-5 feedback won?

    You are completely in the wrong there and absolutely deserved the negative you got.
     
  9. rush2112

    rush2112 Junior Member

    Personally, I really don't care what you think. If a person doesn't have the decency to contact the seller before he bids, when the seller kindly makes this request at the top of the listing, then he has no business bidding.
    Afterall, it's my item and not his. As for the feedback, it's one more reason not to do anymore business with this corporate swine.
    It's your kind of thinking that has turned ebay into the cesspit it has become.
     
  10. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Sorry, but it is mine also. You broke the eBay rules and got just what you deserved.
     
  11. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    Should have cancelled his bid.

    It's people like you that make ebay the "cesspit" (Pretty sure you meant cesspool) that it has become, not I. I buy and sell there occasionally and I do so in a manner that is ethical.

    My best guess? It went for less than you were hoping, enough for you to take a loss on it, and you refused to sell it and opted to hide behind a simple request, not a demand, you put into your listing.
     
  12. rush2112

    rush2112 Junior Member

    Thats fair, but I can tell your an ebay buyer and not a seller who has never had your listing hijacked by someone with 0 feedback trying to manipulate the price and buy something for nothing.
     
  13. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    In that case, they broke the rules, not you. They should get the punishment and with delivery confirmation, it probably could happen. However, because someone with zero feedback did you bad does not give you the right to treat every low feedback that way. I am sorry you had your problems, but two wrongs don't make it right.
     
  14. rush2112

    rush2112 Junior Member

    Even though the buyer didn't break any rules, he just showed a complete lack of respect for me and all the work I did to prepare the listing. If he were an honest bidder he would have contacted me first. The fact he did not and then placed a last minute bid to avoid having his bid deleted tells you a lot about the bidder.
    Although there should be a rule against having multiple accounts with zero feedback there is not. I have no problem with this, but as a seller I should have the option of deciding if I want a zero feedback bidder or not.
    I know every buyer has to start somewhere, I had to at one time as well, but if you want to start your ebay feedback profile at least show some respect for the seller.
     
  15. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    I agree with everyone else here, you were in the wrong. Your attitude towards new buyers is beyond reproach. You said so yourself, the buyer (and seller) has to start somewhere. I started using ebay in 1999, I had zero feedback and had to gradually work my way up gaining the solid reputation that I have today. I have bought and sold on ebay and have never received a nuetral or a negative. Because of the attitude which you have taken you cannot say the same. It is possible that these new buyers simply didn't read what you said about contacting them first. I haven't seen your auction but some sellers put so many terms and garbage in their listings that I may just skim over most of what they're saying without reading all of the trivial fine print.
     
  16. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    Not taking anyone's side here as I can agree with points on both sides. But, it's not up to the buyer to place terms and restrictions on their auctions, just as it's not the buyer's responsibilities to follow them. There is one set of terms and obligations and those are set by the host, Ebay, to be followed by both parties involved, the seller and the buyer. The rest is just bs, whether you agree or not.
    Guy
     
  17. watchwe

    watchwe New Member

    oh, why? what happen?
     
  18. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    Talk about bending or breaking eBay rules, I thought bidding up or on your own item wasn't allowed. I was the only person bidding on an item (opening price set by seller.) and was sniped out at the last moment by one bid. It was at the minimum level above mine. No big deal, I have done this before myself. But within the hour, the seller relisted the same item at the same starting selling price as his first auction. Can I ask eBay to look into this? It all happened so quickly, it makes me think he was unhappy with the results and bid against me. If a buyer can't complete his purchase with the seller, does the seller simply relist it or would it be offered to the next closest bidder? Or are there no rules for this?
     
  19. TheCoinGeezer

    TheCoinGeezer Senex Bombulum

    IMO you deserved a negative feedback for failing to follow through.
    Your suspicion is hardly valid reason to negate a sale.
    Everyone on eBay started out with zero feedback, even you.
    You bungled this auction terribly and got exactly what you deserved.
    Just my 2¢
     
  20. rickyh211

    rickyh211 Member

    I agree With MercCrazy. Just, Because someone got -5 feed bad doesn't mean you can't sell to them. So I think you deserve a negative feedback! Always sell the item to who won it. I start out with 0. feedback yet my first seller sold me my 1901 IHC. So you should give him his item. He won it fair.
     
  21. jjack

    jjack Captain Obvious

    They would typically re-list or do a second chance, depending on how the auction was turning out and how quickly they need to move the product. Anyway you can report it to ebay but they can't do much, ebay support can't look up ip address of users to verify they are the same on a hunch. Besides it doesn't take much to bid using a different ip address...
     
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