Well that is awkward....

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ddddd, Dec 3, 2018.

  1. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    In Eastern PA, "shyster" is a term of endearment. It only goes down from there. Lawyers IN THE IMMEDIATE FAMILY get "shyster".
     
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  3. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

     
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  4. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Forgive me, but the OCD is flaring up today....

    You are = you're, not your.
     
  5. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I think this last paragraph above is by far the smartest think you ever said. I adore you
     
  6. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    You didn’t get my point. It’s not about the date. Nevermind.
     
  7. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I do think there are a couple of folks who MIGHT pass courtroom muster. Q. David Bowers except for his advanced age whereby a lawyer might try to confuse him, and Don Kagin, right now the only known Ph.D. holder in Numismatics.

    But Scott Travers? Nah, you couldn't get him to stop kissing up his own arm long enough to even GIVE testimony.
     
  8. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    You stand up to kurt pretty good. You have great wisdom in the tonning field. You fight a good fight
     
  9. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Are you really. really sure about this. Cuz I'm on the fence on this one
     
  10. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    If you even consider what toners think they know as "wisdom", which I do not. I consider it "pretty good educated guessing" at its very zenith.
     
  11. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Yes, I've gotten 95% of the way there. Not on rainbow per se, but on that splotchy brown randomly shaped crud that brings ridiculous prices in Heritage and S/B catalogs. Did it in person at an ANA show.
     
  12. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    Sorry, it wasn't directed at you. I was just trying to add my two cents to the discussion and agree it was meant to follow Kurt's comments.
     
  13. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    That's 2 questions. @V. Kurt Bellman. Waiting for answer to first question. I just want to know one thing. Just one. Thing about tonning that i'm sure about.
     
  14. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Are you claiming that mottled brown/russet toning is now generating premiums? Can you give us a link at least?
     
  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Okay, just for you.

    THIS is why I think terms are important. I have ALWAYS considered Morgan dollars a subject apart. If I INCLUDE Morgans, the answer to the first question is ONE number. If I EXCLUDE Morgans, it's a way lower number.

    Then we have to agree what it takes to be considered a "rainbow toned coin". If it includes these ridiculous recent ASE's, that's one thing. If it includes ONLY the Morganish TYPE of rainbow toning, we get another answer. Since NEITHER the numerator NOR the denominator is adequately defined, only a fool would guess.
     
  16. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Oh for crying out loud! Only about every major sale catalog on my SHELF! Mostly it gets baked into a ridiculous grade. And yes, I AM saying that color per se sometimes RADICALLY boosts grades.
     
  17. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Yeah. So so true. Thats how i feel. Thanks for asking
     
  18. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Cheech, free yourself from the entire debacle. Make your self a nice cup of herbal tea, get into a lotus position (Yeah, like THAT ship ain't sailed for me!). Then repeat over and over to yourself, "All toning is damage. All toning is damage." [repeat]

    Judy Garland ruby slippers are optional, on account of the lotus position and all.

    Presto! The whole darned issue just POOF, goes away.
     
  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I agree. Just wanted to hear it
     
  20. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Thanks. I feel better already
     
  21. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    But there is one thing for certain. However we define those terms, the percentage is falling. The percentage of legit rainbow coins is falling. The raw NUMBER of faked coins is rising. That is ENOUGH for HUGE concern. The whole thing blows up if and when (more when) the coin docs push TOO hard and supply literally explodes. Then it's over. It is the human condition.
     
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