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<p>[QUOTE="Burton Strauss III, post: 4299430, member: 59677"]As said elsewhere, the strike on these is all over the block. Because of the thinness, this is a coin the mint never really got dialed in.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've seen an MS67 where you could cut yourself on the edges of the reverse diamond. And I've seen a lot like this one where the first thought is "gee, couldn't you hit it a little harder".</p><p><br /></p><p>I have key pickup points on the obverse, but the reverse is often a better indicator</p><p><br /></p><p>An indicator of high AU or MS is the fins on the C:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1094298[/ATTACH]</p><p>They are the first thing to wear away on a coin below AU55. (People who haven't seen a well struck MS coin don't ever realize they should be there)</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The next thing I look for in strike/wear are the six orbs and the two bars on the reverse - in the letter Cs:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1094293[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>First off they have to be present - you will see a lot of weakly struck coins where there's no detail in those areas at all.</p><p><br /></p><p>On an average strike, they are present, but not full.</p><p><br /></p><p>On a great strike, they are fully formed and become one of the high points that show wear.</p><p><br /></p><p>So this is actually a pretty good strike.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Note that my usual rule is the obverse controls the grade and the reverse can only lower it. So what are the pickups on the obverse? Glad you asked...</p><p><br /></p><p>The six points where the bevel of the star meets the shield...</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1094312[/ATTACH]</p><p>These are the highest/most susceptible to wear.</p><p><br /></p><p>If I'm being finiky, I start from AU-50 and count down one grade for each wear point (1 = XF-45, 2= XF-40, etc.)</p><p>.</p><p><br /></p><p>So... all in - XF-40 for the obverse. Reverse is low AU, but doesn't help and the rim dings it a grade.</p><p><br /></p><p>35 is about right.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>PS: I like it ... I wouldn't kick it out of the collection in the morning.</p><p><br /></p><p>As somebody will point out, I'm working on a collection of XF 3CS. </p><p><br /></p><p>I need an 1865. </p><p><br /></p><p>Then I would like to replace the two impaired proofs (PF-50 and PF-58) with XF business strikes, replace the damaged XF with a clean coin and downgrade the AU coin to XF. Someday when I hit the lottery.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Burton Strauss III, post: 4299430, member: 59677"]As said elsewhere, the strike on these is all over the block. Because of the thinness, this is a coin the mint never really got dialed in. I've seen an MS67 where you could cut yourself on the edges of the reverse diamond. And I've seen a lot like this one where the first thought is "gee, couldn't you hit it a little harder". I have key pickup points on the obverse, but the reverse is often a better indicator An indicator of high AU or MS is the fins on the C: [ATTACH=full]1094298[/ATTACH] They are the first thing to wear away on a coin below AU55. (People who haven't seen a well struck MS coin don't ever realize they should be there) The next thing I look for in strike/wear are the six orbs and the two bars on the reverse - in the letter Cs: [ATTACH=full]1094293[/ATTACH] First off they have to be present - you will see a lot of weakly struck coins where there's no detail in those areas at all. On an average strike, they are present, but not full. On a great strike, they are fully formed and become one of the high points that show wear. So this is actually a pretty good strike. Note that my usual rule is the obverse controls the grade and the reverse can only lower it. So what are the pickups on the obverse? Glad you asked... The six points where the bevel of the star meets the shield... [ATTACH=full]1094312[/ATTACH] These are the highest/most susceptible to wear. If I'm being finiky, I start from AU-50 and count down one grade for each wear point (1 = XF-45, 2= XF-40, etc.) . So... all in - XF-40 for the obverse. Reverse is low AU, but doesn't help and the rim dings it a grade. 35 is about right. PS: I like it ... I wouldn't kick it out of the collection in the morning. As somebody will point out, I'm working on a collection of XF 3CS. I need an 1865. Then I would like to replace the two impaired proofs (PF-50 and PF-58) with XF business strikes, replace the damaged XF with a clean coin and downgrade the AU coin to XF. Someday when I hit the lottery.[/QUOTE]
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