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<p>[QUOTE="treylxapi47, post: 1912428, member: 41863"]This whole thread just reinforces my belief that the collector isnt the one 'setting' the market. </p><p><br /></p><p>When ever you bring up the fact that TPGs over grade coins or didnt grade it properly, you always hear the excuse that it is because the market dictates that it is acceptable to fudge this coin some of the time and not that one some of the time. You always hear the phrase 'this is what is market acceptable on this coin'. I mean this happens ALL the time, everyday there is a thread about a disputed opinion of a grade a major TPG assigned a coin. </p><p><br /></p><p>So if the majority of coins are passing through the experts hands and then they give them arbitrary grades that arent consistent due to market acceptability, what good are they? Better yet, who is setting the market? They say they let these coins slide as problem free even with issues because the market will absorb it as a problem free example, but we arent seeing the market dictate anything. We are seeing private grading companies use this excuse (to make money), and then you have dealers who are selling these coins amongst themselves, and then finally on the tail end, the coin may reside with a collector, but apparently not if the majority of dealers are trading amongst themselves just to keep the cash flowing, and private collectors only make up a small percent of the dealings.</p><p><br /></p><p>So who is setting the market? The TPGs who are the 'experts', the dealers who mainly trade between each other and who are also looking for a sucker to sell a sub-par coin to AND who are also supposed to be generally knowledgeable of coins, or the least knowledgeable collector? </p><p><br /></p><p>Methinks 'Market Acceptable' is nothing more than a fancy sales gimmick repeaeted by dealers and TPGs to absolve themselves of selling sub-par coins and to make money on bad coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>CAC is a much better route as it confirms whether a coin meets the accepted standard. I just wish they had a way to identify if a coin DIDNT sticker at CAC.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="treylxapi47, post: 1912428, member: 41863"]This whole thread just reinforces my belief that the collector isnt the one 'setting' the market. When ever you bring up the fact that TPGs over grade coins or didnt grade it properly, you always hear the excuse that it is because the market dictates that it is acceptable to fudge this coin some of the time and not that one some of the time. You always hear the phrase 'this is what is market acceptable on this coin'. I mean this happens ALL the time, everyday there is a thread about a disputed opinion of a grade a major TPG assigned a coin. So if the majority of coins are passing through the experts hands and then they give them arbitrary grades that arent consistent due to market acceptability, what good are they? Better yet, who is setting the market? They say they let these coins slide as problem free even with issues because the market will absorb it as a problem free example, but we arent seeing the market dictate anything. We are seeing private grading companies use this excuse (to make money), and then you have dealers who are selling these coins amongst themselves, and then finally on the tail end, the coin may reside with a collector, but apparently not if the majority of dealers are trading amongst themselves just to keep the cash flowing, and private collectors only make up a small percent of the dealings. So who is setting the market? The TPGs who are the 'experts', the dealers who mainly trade between each other and who are also looking for a sucker to sell a sub-par coin to AND who are also supposed to be generally knowledgeable of coins, or the least knowledgeable collector? Methinks 'Market Acceptable' is nothing more than a fancy sales gimmick repeaeted by dealers and TPGs to absolve themselves of selling sub-par coins and to make money on bad coins. CAC is a much better route as it confirms whether a coin meets the accepted standard. I just wish they had a way to identify if a coin DIDNT sticker at CAC.[/QUOTE]
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