Weird Bi-Level Die Crack or ??

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  1. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    The reverse by the initials is 'Thicker' at the rim and has a distinct line at the T in Cent. Looks like there are two levels to the die below the memorial on the East end. What is this? The straight line, does not look like a break.
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  3. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    I thought maybe die clash but there isnt anything that normally appears there in a Lincoln clash. Im interested to see what others think
     
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  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Maybe a die scratch? Wild guess.
     
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  5. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    This is a very interesting piece. I know what it looks like to me, but why on earth was it done? It looks like someone used a belt driven sander and left that mark intentionally on the die. That or there was a minor lamination on the die surface that was peeling away. A mint worker then cut away the thin material and polished the area up to put the die back into production. You can tell that what ever it was, it's a place on the die that had metal removed as it left that area of the coin with a raised surface.
     
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  7. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Based on the photos, I'd take a guess
    and say Die gouge.

    I've seen very similar effects like this before;
    not on this particular coin.
     
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  8. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    Thanks. That would be a large gouge indeed, to go from the T up into the initials.
     
  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Looks more like a die dent than a gouge. Possibly a die "clash" with the feed fingers there instead of a planchet. Dented the rev die through and to the right of the T making it lower (slightly raised on the coin). And it looks like they may have tried to grind down the die to remove the dent. (grind the high side bring the level down. Notice there are a lot of die polish/scratches to the left of the line, but none to the right side.
     
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  10. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    Clashed with a feeder finger makes perfect sense!! It's certainly not a die gouge as there is a very wide area that has a completely different look to the finish on the surface.
     
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  11. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    The stepped line and the upward-sloping perimeter are part of the same error -- a broad die dent. The step marks the edge of the die dent. I can't speculate on what caused the dent.
     
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  12. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the feedback. I haven't seen this before. I assume this is not very common.
     
  13. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    DSC02207 (2).JPG DSC02208 (2).JPG DSC02208 (4).JPG Interior bi-level die crack.
     
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  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Ir looks like a die clash from Lincoln but then the Cent would have to be rotated 180 degrees. Kinda neat looking.
     
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