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<p>[QUOTE="BC Chicago, post: 2458082, member: 80070"]On the subject of Morgan ratings, I should be more specific. My reference for ratings was the ANA Grading Standards for United States Coins, 6th ed., along with the 2015 'Red Book' and the 2009 Professional Edition Guidebook. The grading standards permit, and define, MS-70 for Morgan silver dollars. However, the probability that a professional rating service would provide any existing Morgan with an MS-70 rating or not is indeed low. The professional edition guidebook does not indicate any auction records (as of 2009) for coins rated MS-70, but it indicates a number of MS-68's and a couple of 69's. The sale prices for these ranged from $20,000 to $450,000. If budging a rating of MS-68 to MS-70 could run the price up into the millions, I fear the pressure on those doing the rating would be enormous. At that level of coin quality, given a ten-fold increase in value, it really gets down to "picking the barely-visible fecal matter with the extremely keen-eyed chickens". But you are correct that the guidebook does not provide any prices reported at auction for MS-70 Morgans. Doesn't mean that none exist, of course, but I agree that their existence is not reported, though the rating is defined in the manual.</p><p>As for my own study, if a Morgan dollar had excellent full-field luster on both the obverse and reverse, and if the only traces of imperfection I saw (under 8x lens) were very slight bag and handling scratches that were not clearly visible to the naked eye, then I (very arbitrarily) deemed it "MS-70" for my purposes. However, I only rated my population (118 coins) as: MS-70, MS-60, AU-50, AU/EF-45, EF-40, EF/VF-35, VF-30, VF/F-20, F-12, VG-8, G-4, and "AG" (="sucks"). So you could argue that I "bastardized" the scale for my purposes, bending the ratings (slightly) to fit my actual population. Ironically, since I frequented upscale coin shops rather than bulk silver dealers, I had almost as much trouble finding truly nasty "AG" Morgans as I did finding near-perfect "MS" coins. Dealers didn't bother to put AG Morgan dollars out under the glass on the assumption that nobody would want them. They always have "scrap buckets" with heavily worn silver dimes, quarters, and halves, but I actually had to ask them to dig around for the junk-level Morgans. My suspicion is that a lot of these get melted for scrap when silver is high, because they contain slightly more Ag per dollar face-value than do the lower denominations. Anyway, that's what I did. If there is a numismatic "Commission of High Inquisitors" who want to charge me with heresy, then I freely confess my guilt. "Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa."[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BC Chicago, post: 2458082, member: 80070"]On the subject of Morgan ratings, I should be more specific. My reference for ratings was the ANA Grading Standards for United States Coins, 6th ed., along with the 2015 'Red Book' and the 2009 Professional Edition Guidebook. The grading standards permit, and define, MS-70 for Morgan silver dollars. However, the probability that a professional rating service would provide any existing Morgan with an MS-70 rating or not is indeed low. The professional edition guidebook does not indicate any auction records (as of 2009) for coins rated MS-70, but it indicates a number of MS-68's and a couple of 69's. The sale prices for these ranged from $20,000 to $450,000. If budging a rating of MS-68 to MS-70 could run the price up into the millions, I fear the pressure on those doing the rating would be enormous. At that level of coin quality, given a ten-fold increase in value, it really gets down to "picking the barely-visible fecal matter with the extremely keen-eyed chickens". But you are correct that the guidebook does not provide any prices reported at auction for MS-70 Morgans. Doesn't mean that none exist, of course, but I agree that their existence is not reported, though the rating is defined in the manual. As for my own study, if a Morgan dollar had excellent full-field luster on both the obverse and reverse, and if the only traces of imperfection I saw (under 8x lens) were very slight bag and handling scratches that were not clearly visible to the naked eye, then I (very arbitrarily) deemed it "MS-70" for my purposes. However, I only rated my population (118 coins) as: MS-70, MS-60, AU-50, AU/EF-45, EF-40, EF/VF-35, VF-30, VF/F-20, F-12, VG-8, G-4, and "AG" (="sucks"). So you could argue that I "bastardized" the scale for my purposes, bending the ratings (slightly) to fit my actual population. Ironically, since I frequented upscale coin shops rather than bulk silver dealers, I had almost as much trouble finding truly nasty "AG" Morgans as I did finding near-perfect "MS" coins. Dealers didn't bother to put AG Morgan dollars out under the glass on the assumption that nobody would want them. They always have "scrap buckets" with heavily worn silver dimes, quarters, and halves, but I actually had to ask them to dig around for the junk-level Morgans. My suspicion is that a lot of these get melted for scrap when silver is high, because they contain slightly more Ag per dollar face-value than do the lower denominations. Anyway, that's what I did. If there is a numismatic "Commission of High Inquisitors" who want to charge me with heresy, then I freely confess my guilt. "Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa."[/QUOTE]
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