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<p>[QUOTE="Midas, post: 45446, member: 2761"]I bought, what I thought was a MS64 coin from a dealer who determined it was a MS65. So I ended up paying 65 dollars. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> I figured...he knew more than I did and I <b>REALLY</b> wanted and <b>HAD</b> to <b>HAVE</b> that coin. Years go buy and I wanted to sell that very same coin. I took it back to the same dealer who told me it was a MS64. Showed him HIS receipt when he sold it as a MS65 and then accused me of bringing in another coin. [Yeah, yeah...it was kept in ideal conditions and looked exactly like the day I bought it.]</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, this is not the case with <u>all</u> dealers as they are in business to generate cash and make a profit. But it is only natural for us to want to pay MS64 money for a MS65 coin and of course, sell the coin for MS65 money when the buyer will claim it is a MS64.</p><p><br /></p><p>Then there are those New Orlean Morgan strikes where their definition of quality control was no way as good as San Francisco's. One "S" mint Morgan that grades MS64 may grade MS66 if everything were the same (except the "O" mint mark).</p><p><br /></p><p>Take a Buffalo nickel. There are some MS grades for specific years where the horn looks very worn. You are scratching your head and thinking, "That can't be a MS grade if the horn is worn...but guess what?...it depends on the mint and year!</p><p><br /></p><p>This is pretty much normal anywhere you go and hence the reasons why slabbing got to be so popular. It wasn't the seller's opinion, nor the buyer's opinion...it was graded by a 3rd party agency who techincally shouldn't have any interest for the seller or buyer. It is almost like hiring a mediator to settle a dispute and yes, like any dispute...somebody is happy and somebody is not when the final say-so comes about.</p><p><br /></p><p>For me...I pretty much given up submitting coins for grading as my weakest area of grading is AU58 to MS63...the slider range. I bought coins that I thought were MS and they came back a high AU (and I wasn't too happy as I paid in MS dollars!!). Ahhhh...a learning experience. Why is it that they are always so expensive. It makes me feel like this guy:</p><p><img src="http://www.htc.net/~joegrant/grantconsulting/images/AA015778_rubbingEyes_110W.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>So now I resort to looking for deals in lower tiered slabs where I mentally deduct anywhere from 2 to 4 points in MS grades and 5 to 10 points in circulated grades. If I can see the coin and get a "deal", I'll buy it...that way...I am not that far off in grading that given coin, for that given year and for the given mint production year![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Midas, post: 45446, member: 2761"]I bought, what I thought was a MS64 coin from a dealer who determined it was a MS65. So I ended up paying 65 dollars. :o I figured...he knew more than I did and I [B]REALLY[/B] wanted and [B]HAD[/B] to [B]HAVE[/B] that coin. Years go buy and I wanted to sell that very same coin. I took it back to the same dealer who told me it was a MS64. Showed him HIS receipt when he sold it as a MS65 and then accused me of bringing in another coin. [Yeah, yeah...it was kept in ideal conditions and looked exactly like the day I bought it.] Now, this is not the case with [U]all[/U] dealers as they are in business to generate cash and make a profit. But it is only natural for us to want to pay MS64 money for a MS65 coin and of course, sell the coin for MS65 money when the buyer will claim it is a MS64. Then there are those New Orlean Morgan strikes where their definition of quality control was no way as good as San Francisco's. One "S" mint Morgan that grades MS64 may grade MS66 if everything were the same (except the "O" mint mark). Take a Buffalo nickel. There are some MS grades for specific years where the horn looks very worn. You are scratching your head and thinking, "That can't be a MS grade if the horn is worn...but guess what?...it depends on the mint and year! This is pretty much normal anywhere you go and hence the reasons why slabbing got to be so popular. It wasn't the seller's opinion, nor the buyer's opinion...it was graded by a 3rd party agency who techincally shouldn't have any interest for the seller or buyer. It is almost like hiring a mediator to settle a dispute and yes, like any dispute...somebody is happy and somebody is not when the final say-so comes about. For me...I pretty much given up submitting coins for grading as my weakest area of grading is AU58 to MS63...the slider range. I bought coins that I thought were MS and they came back a high AU (and I wasn't too happy as I paid in MS dollars!!). Ahhhh...a learning experience. Why is it that they are always so expensive. It makes me feel like this guy: [IMG]http://www.htc.net/~joegrant/grantconsulting/images/AA015778_rubbingEyes_110W.jpg[/IMG] So now I resort to looking for deals in lower tiered slabs where I mentally deduct anywhere from 2 to 4 points in MS grades and 5 to 10 points in circulated grades. If I can see the coin and get a "deal", I'll buy it...that way...I am not that far off in grading that given coin, for that given year and for the given mint production year![/QUOTE]
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