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<p>[QUOTE="LETSBUYCOINS, post: 45437, member: 2657"]I buy Morgans. I look for New Orleans dates. I am aware that allegedly the Orleans mint was known for weak strikes. The unfortunate reality is dealers will mistake a weak strike for circulation wear. Whether intentional to try to get a coin cheap its a possibility. I do have one Morgan that is an MS-63 that I insist is a weak strike. If the coin has full detail, except for weak breast feathers, and if the coin has what the hobby calls a satiny/white surface across the entire coin, then the coin is Mint state. I was reading in one coin website where a coin does not have to have full strike to be considered mint. A weak strike can still be called mint. I dumped (sold) another Morgan which had weak breast feathers, but in that case, the breast feathers had some dark discoloration. Discoloration in the highest areas is a sure sign of circulation wear. ...Im slowly learning about mint states. MS-60: full of bag marks on both sides. MS-62: full of bag marks on one side. MS-63: Moderate bag marks on one or both sides, with large percentage of the flat surfaces having satiny luster. MS-64: bagmarks are faint and not trusive. Coin otherwise looks very clean, with very satiny surface. ...I had a Morgan with a black mark on the cheek. It was NOT toning. Could be a stain from an album or a coin-counter, one guy said. Such marks could still grade up to MS-63 but no higher. Dealer will pay MS-61 if its a nice coin, but with an album mark, a dealer wont pay higher. As one says, hes gabling it will come back form PCGS as MS-63. They often reject damaged coins. Even if it comes back MS-62. if he pays MS-62 money, he still has to pay the grading fee, and loses money on the coin. If you are BUYING: Bottomline, pay bottom dollar for coins with questionable condition. Dont let a dealer convince you his merchandise grades high, if its not slabbed, and you see stuff on the coin that drags it down. Bottom tier slabs of graders like NTC are a lot more trustworthy than some of the dealers with the unslabbed coins . I am happy with my slabs. Im buying more. Nice coins that meet the grade. They can always be broken out of their slabs. Though Ill keep mine in the slabs. Word from the local coin show in my area: Some of the errors are worth a lot more money than the red book price. Any of you agree?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="LETSBUYCOINS, post: 45437, member: 2657"]I buy Morgans. I look for New Orleans dates. I am aware that allegedly the Orleans mint was known for weak strikes. The unfortunate reality is dealers will mistake a weak strike for circulation wear. Whether intentional to try to get a coin cheap its a possibility. I do have one Morgan that is an MS-63 that I insist is a weak strike. If the coin has full detail, except for weak breast feathers, and if the coin has what the hobby calls a satiny/white surface across the entire coin, then the coin is Mint state. I was reading in one coin website where a coin does not have to have full strike to be considered mint. A weak strike can still be called mint. I dumped (sold) another Morgan which had weak breast feathers, but in that case, the breast feathers had some dark discoloration. Discoloration in the highest areas is a sure sign of circulation wear. ...Im slowly learning about mint states. MS-60: full of bag marks on both sides. MS-62: full of bag marks on one side. MS-63: Moderate bag marks on one or both sides, with large percentage of the flat surfaces having satiny luster. MS-64: bagmarks are faint and not trusive. Coin otherwise looks very clean, with very satiny surface. ...I had a Morgan with a black mark on the cheek. It was NOT toning. Could be a stain from an album or a coin-counter, one guy said. Such marks could still grade up to MS-63 but no higher. Dealer will pay MS-61 if its a nice coin, but with an album mark, a dealer wont pay higher. As one says, hes gabling it will come back form PCGS as MS-63. They often reject damaged coins. Even if it comes back MS-62. if he pays MS-62 money, he still has to pay the grading fee, and loses money on the coin. If you are BUYING: Bottomline, pay bottom dollar for coins with questionable condition. Dont let a dealer convince you his merchandise grades high, if its not slabbed, and you see stuff on the coin that drags it down. Bottom tier slabs of graders like NTC are a lot more trustworthy than some of the dealers with the unslabbed coins . I am happy with my slabs. Im buying more. Nice coins that meet the grade. They can always be broken out of their slabs. Though Ill keep mine in the slabs. Word from the local coin show in my area: Some of the errors are worth a lot more money than the red book price. Any of you agree?[/QUOTE]
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