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<p>[QUOTE="cladking, post: 26096475, member: 68"]This is the prevalent attitude and assumptions but I believe it couldn't be more wrong. I started collecting in 1957 and had a hoot putting together a buffalo nickel collection from pocket change and limited roll hunting. I had to buy a few key dates but there were a few interesting coins left in circulation; very few. Each year that went by the better coins simply continued a disappearing trick that began in 1931 because of B Max Mehl's popularization of coin collecting. By 1964 there was absolutely nothing at all to collect so people even turned to things like '60-D "bar" nickels. I still have an extensive collection of these. </p><p><br /></p><p>The Numismatist reported that more than 90% of '09-S VDB cents were gone by 1940 and I'd wager most of the survivors were culls and VG's. </p><p><br /></p><p>By contrast today there are all sorts of rare coins in circulation because people think they aren't worth collecting. The list of things that can be found is a mile long but there are still significant rarities that aren't even on most peoples' lists. There are countless condition rarities like an XF well made 1969 quarter. Very few 1969 quarters were well made and 70% are gone now lost to time and misadventure. The survivors are generally in abysmal condition but things like an AU is possible. There are likely dozens of '69 quarters in nice VF and better condition in the country. Sure you can go buy one in BU but well made ones are hard to find. even the services put poorly struck coins with extensive chicken scratches in high grade holders. People just don't notice how scarce attractive moderns can be in ANY grade or how badly worn and mangled the coins in circulation are. </p><p><br /></p><p>There are literally tens of thousands of rare coins that can be found with tens of millions of examples in aggregate. But collectors put things like a 1971-D/D nickel in nice VF+ in the reject pile as they continue their search for any nickel minted before 1960. They save a 1940 in G and pass a 1982-P in AU even though it was well struck by good dies. There are literally millions of nicer 1940 nickel already saved but try finding an '82-P nickel in any grade at all that is attractive and well struck. </p><p><br /></p><p>Collectors simply overlook coins made after 1964. This started in 1964 when the mint announced the first date freeze and caused the collapse of the modern coin market. Then in 1965 a new date freeze was announced and shortly later the switch away from silver (gold was already gone and mostly illegal to hold). This caused a more widespread collapse in the hobby and 60 years of people ignoring the coins made later. Now days it's hard to open a box of any pennies, nickels, dimes, or quarters and not have at least one rare coin in it and a few scarce ones. People aren't looking because there's no silver or gold. </p><p><br /></p><p>Numismatically this in like the 1870's when rare date old coins weren't underrepresented in change; ie- a coin with 1% of the mintage showed up 1% of the time. You could (can) find almost anything if you look at enough coins.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="cladking, post: 26096475, member: 68"]This is the prevalent attitude and assumptions but I believe it couldn't be more wrong. I started collecting in 1957 and had a hoot putting together a buffalo nickel collection from pocket change and limited roll hunting. I had to buy a few key dates but there were a few interesting coins left in circulation; very few. Each year that went by the better coins simply continued a disappearing trick that began in 1931 because of B Max Mehl's popularization of coin collecting. By 1964 there was absolutely nothing at all to collect so people even turned to things like '60-D "bar" nickels. I still have an extensive collection of these. The Numismatist reported that more than 90% of '09-S VDB cents were gone by 1940 and I'd wager most of the survivors were culls and VG's. By contrast today there are all sorts of rare coins in circulation because people think they aren't worth collecting. The list of things that can be found is a mile long but there are still significant rarities that aren't even on most peoples' lists. There are countless condition rarities like an XF well made 1969 quarter. Very few 1969 quarters were well made and 70% are gone now lost to time and misadventure. The survivors are generally in abysmal condition but things like an AU is possible. There are likely dozens of '69 quarters in nice VF and better condition in the country. Sure you can go buy one in BU but well made ones are hard to find. even the services put poorly struck coins with extensive chicken scratches in high grade holders. People just don't notice how scarce attractive moderns can be in ANY grade or how badly worn and mangled the coins in circulation are. There are literally tens of thousands of rare coins that can be found with tens of millions of examples in aggregate. But collectors put things like a 1971-D/D nickel in nice VF+ in the reject pile as they continue their search for any nickel minted before 1960. They save a 1940 in G and pass a 1982-P in AU even though it was well struck by good dies. There are literally millions of nicer 1940 nickel already saved but try finding an '82-P nickel in any grade at all that is attractive and well struck. Collectors simply overlook coins made after 1964. This started in 1964 when the mint announced the first date freeze and caused the collapse of the modern coin market. Then in 1965 a new date freeze was announced and shortly later the switch away from silver (gold was already gone and mostly illegal to hold). This caused a more widespread collapse in the hobby and 60 years of people ignoring the coins made later. Now days it's hard to open a box of any pennies, nickels, dimes, or quarters and not have at least one rare coin in it and a few scarce ones. People aren't looking because there's no silver or gold. Numismatically this in like the 1870's when rare date old coins weren't underrepresented in change; ie- a coin with 1% of the mintage showed up 1% of the time. You could (can) find almost anything if you look at enough coins.[/QUOTE]
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