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<p>[QUOTE="mikenoodle, post: 599690, member: 307"]I think this is spot on! I don't think the coin has been cleaned, or least you can't tell from the pics, and that the marks you see are from improper handling not cleaning. Possibly slide marks from albums with the clear plastic that slides above and below the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the confusing language, Jesse:</p><p><br /></p><p>Don't try to reconcile the two descriptions because while they both use the same words, those same words mean different things. Personally, I think Bowers is an excellent numismatic mind and of the two, the one that I would pay attention to. Not to say that Bressett is a hack writer, but of the two, I think Bowers is more knowledgeable and communicates his message better.</p><p><br /></p><p>Grading Washingtons is not easy. In fact, it's IMHO the most difficult series in the 20th century to grade. The best way to learn the differences is to look at a lot of coins and compare them in your mind. Once you start to see many examples of MS-63 and MS-65, the difference in the type of marks mentioned will become clearer.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is a great series to cherrypick dealers for, because a lot of dealers have a hard time with this series too. If you can discern when the dealer is undergrading a coin, then you can usually find a nice bargain.</p><p><br /></p><p>I did this once with a dealer on a 1921 Peace dollar. He graded it MS-63, I graded it a high-end MS-64, and given a good day at a TPG could get an MS-65 slab. The guy who I trust the most as far as grading eye said "They'll 64 it!". little did he know that I paid 63 money for it. The difference in value between a 63($500) and a 64($850) is big, but if it slabs 65 it is a $2,000 coin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="mikenoodle, post: 599690, member: 307"]I think this is spot on! I don't think the coin has been cleaned, or least you can't tell from the pics, and that the marks you see are from improper handling not cleaning. Possibly slide marks from albums with the clear plastic that slides above and below the coin. As for the confusing language, Jesse: Don't try to reconcile the two descriptions because while they both use the same words, those same words mean different things. Personally, I think Bowers is an excellent numismatic mind and of the two, the one that I would pay attention to. Not to say that Bressett is a hack writer, but of the two, I think Bowers is more knowledgeable and communicates his message better. Grading Washingtons is not easy. In fact, it's IMHO the most difficult series in the 20th century to grade. The best way to learn the differences is to look at a lot of coins and compare them in your mind. Once you start to see many examples of MS-63 and MS-65, the difference in the type of marks mentioned will become clearer. This is a great series to cherrypick dealers for, because a lot of dealers have a hard time with this series too. If you can discern when the dealer is undergrading a coin, then you can usually find a nice bargain. I did this once with a dealer on a 1921 Peace dollar. He graded it MS-63, I graded it a high-end MS-64, and given a good day at a TPG could get an MS-65 slab. The guy who I trust the most as far as grading eye said "They'll 64 it!". little did he know that I paid 63 money for it. The difference in value between a 63($500) and a 64($850) is big, but if it slabs 65 it is a $2,000 coin.[/QUOTE]
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