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<p>[QUOTE="WashQuartJesse, post: 599229, member: 18323"]Here's a coin I purchased today feeling confident that it was ms-63. The coin has an attractive luster. Here's where I usually get confused...</p><p> </p><p>There seems to be a more objective standard with Washington's from 63 down, but from 63 up it seems to get a bit subjective and unclear. For instance, the Red Book states:</p><p> </p><p>MS-63: No trace of wear. <b>Light blemishes</b>. Attractive mint luster.</p><p>MS-64: A few scattered contact marks. Good eye appeal and attractive luster.</p><p>MS-65: Only <b>light, scattered contact marks</b>. Good eye appeal and attractive luster.</p><p> </p><p>Bower's Guide Book states:</p><p> </p><p>MS-63: A Mint State coin with attractive mint luster, but noticeable <b>detracting contact marks</b> or <b>minor blemishes</b>.</p><p>MS-65 No trace of wear; nearly as perfect as MS-67 except for some <b>small blemishes</b>. Has full mint luster but may be unevenly toned or lightly fingermarked. May be weakly struck in one small spot. A few barely noticeable nicks or marks may be present.</p><p> </p><p>I find the bold text ambiguous and confusing.</p><p> </p><p>I'd like for members to try and help me correlate those ambiguous, subjective, and relative terms with an actual grade. </p><p> </p><p>Here's a coin I can objectively state has contact marks. I don't know if they're light or what. Blemishes...you be the judge. I'd just like to, I should say I really need to, get over this MS-63 hurdle with this series because it is my collecting focus.</p><p> </p><p>The coin is blast white. Any golden toning is a result of poor lighting. </p><p> </p><p>Obverse Luster:</p><p><img src="http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27012.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>Reverse Luster:</p><p><img src="http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27011.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>Obverse Closeups:</p><p><img src="http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27006.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27004.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27005.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27002.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>Reverse Closeups:</p><p><img src="http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27010.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27009.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27008.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27007.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="WashQuartJesse, post: 599229, member: 18323"]Here's a coin I purchased today feeling confident that it was ms-63. The coin has an attractive luster. Here's where I usually get confused... There seems to be a more objective standard with Washington's from 63 down, but from 63 up it seems to get a bit subjective and unclear. For instance, the Red Book states: MS-63: No trace of wear. [B]Light blemishes[/B]. Attractive mint luster. MS-64: A few scattered contact marks. Good eye appeal and attractive luster. MS-65: Only [B]light, scattered contact marks[/B]. Good eye appeal and attractive luster. Bower's Guide Book states: MS-63: A Mint State coin with attractive mint luster, but noticeable [B]detracting contact marks[/B] or [B]minor blemishes[/B]. MS-65 No trace of wear; nearly as perfect as MS-67 except for some [B]small blemishes[/B]. Has full mint luster but may be unevenly toned or lightly fingermarked. May be weakly struck in one small spot. A few barely noticeable nicks or marks may be present. I find the bold text ambiguous and confusing. I'd like for members to try and help me correlate those ambiguous, subjective, and relative terms with an actual grade. Here's a coin I can objectively state has contact marks. I don't know if they're light or what. Blemishes...you be the judge. I'd just like to, I should say I really need to, get over this MS-63 hurdle with this series because it is my collecting focus. The coin is blast white. Any golden toning is a result of poor lighting. Obverse Luster: [IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27012.jpg[/IMG] Reverse Luster: [IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27011.jpg[/IMG] Obverse Closeups: [IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27006.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27004.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27005.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27002.jpg[/IMG] Reverse Closeups: [IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27010.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27009.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27008.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bugchucka/2009-05-27007.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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