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<p>[QUOTE="Delmer, post: 206588, member: 8219"]Camera not cooperating, and after looking at my best coin, (I listed every single flaw.. a dozen of them a second ago but lost the post in time-out) I'll drop back to a hope for 2 of my 4 that I sent off are ms-66. The surface coating, I think I read that they apply some anti-corrosion stuff onto the coin? anyway it messes the shine up, under a scope especially. The shiney surface is also not very uniform in thickness across the coin, on 90% of the ones I looked at long and hard (quantity about 50) . They look like they went through a buget electroplating process where the solution was stagnent and the coin was removed too early. pores in one side of the coin and thick surface on the other side. When it's right, and the die is fresh, the detail on the bottom of the torch is nice... but the coating fades out across the coin and theres always some pores on the thinly coated part. I wish I could see the whole process it seems like an engineering challenge at the speed they need.</p><p><br /></p><p>They also have to be upset at the fact that these are way easier to counterfeit now.. the criminals can just make SMOOTHIES. no need to take the time to do the edge lettering.. easier than faking a quarter because thre isn't even a serrated edge to have to make. </p><p><br /></p><p>and speaking of the ebay scams..</p><p><br /></p><p>Then theres the ol grinding wheel trick. I weighed the (smooth) ones I bought. 123.4 graines.</p><p><br /></p><p>Then theres tapping one edge against another edge to create the "dropped letters". pays for the new hammer 10x if the altered (ahem, defaced!) coin is put on e-pay. I wrote about this in a separate answer to another's question. I DID find naturally occuring shadow letters on one coin, I think this happens inside the 140,000 ballistic bags during transport... If anyone finds a "dropped letter" that cannot be explained as a BACKWARD IMAGE (remember, upside-down D mirrored looks like a D, and a W, T, O, M, ... are indistinguishable from their mirror..</p><p><br /></p><p>Hope this is entertaining.. Friday night and I'm scoping coins.. and ok with that! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Delmer, post: 206588, member: 8219"]Camera not cooperating, and after looking at my best coin, (I listed every single flaw.. a dozen of them a second ago but lost the post in time-out) I'll drop back to a hope for 2 of my 4 that I sent off are ms-66. The surface coating, I think I read that they apply some anti-corrosion stuff onto the coin? anyway it messes the shine up, under a scope especially. The shiney surface is also not very uniform in thickness across the coin, on 90% of the ones I looked at long and hard (quantity about 50) . They look like they went through a buget electroplating process where the solution was stagnent and the coin was removed too early. pores in one side of the coin and thick surface on the other side. When it's right, and the die is fresh, the detail on the bottom of the torch is nice... but the coating fades out across the coin and theres always some pores on the thinly coated part. I wish I could see the whole process it seems like an engineering challenge at the speed they need. They also have to be upset at the fact that these are way easier to counterfeit now.. the criminals can just make SMOOTHIES. no need to take the time to do the edge lettering.. easier than faking a quarter because thre isn't even a serrated edge to have to make. and speaking of the ebay scams.. Then theres the ol grinding wheel trick. I weighed the (smooth) ones I bought. 123.4 graines. Then theres tapping one edge against another edge to create the "dropped letters". pays for the new hammer 10x if the altered (ahem, defaced!) coin is put on e-pay. I wrote about this in a separate answer to another's question. I DID find naturally occuring shadow letters on one coin, I think this happens inside the 140,000 ballistic bags during transport... If anyone finds a "dropped letter" that cannot be explained as a BACKWARD IMAGE (remember, upside-down D mirrored looks like a D, and a W, T, O, M, ... are indistinguishable from their mirror.. Hope this is entertaining.. Friday night and I'm scoping coins.. and ok with that! :)[/QUOTE]
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