Washing circulated silver coins with mild soap and water

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Doc J, Jun 2, 2018.

  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member


    During this mild washing and rubbing, there was minute debris on the coin as you moved your fingers or whatever you used, definitely damaged the coins surface, what part of this don't you understand?
     
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  3. Robert91791

    Robert91791 Well-Known Member

    It does not. All debris gets wash away restoring luster that is covered by old debris. Read the quote from my previous thread. The metal composition of cu-ni is so hard that is must overcome its high and low resistivity pressure to cause damage. Now there is also some data on this. No YOU don't get it.
     
  4. Robert91791

    Robert91791 Well-Known Member

    It is also for the same reason why CU-Ni (copper and nickel) was chosen to be the metal composition for coinage application because of its toughness, resistivity to corrosion.
     
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  5. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    OK, and you're the person who is saving ALL their quarters. I AM a chemist and can tell you with a large degree of certainty that most chemists won't know squat about coins and "conservation".
     
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  6. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I believe that.
     
  7. Robert91791

    Robert91791 Well-Known Member

    Did I say that a chemist know a lot about coins? whats a matter with you people. This is just a post of my own perspective. That is all. I'm not challenging any of you. You people are terrible.
     
  8. Robert91791

    Robert91791 Well-Known Member

    What is my position of collecting quarters got to do with this particular discussion..?

    What is that matter with you? You can't even hold a rational reasoning. Get lost. You are ignore from now on.
     
  9. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    "High and low resistivity pressure"? Word salad.

    What must overcome its... whatever that was... to cause damage?

    "Appeal to authority" is a logical fallacy. If the "authority" you appeal to is someone we've never heard from before, and you can't coherently report what she's trying to say, it's also really ineffective.
     
  10. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    No, you're just saying that we're all wrong, and then pretending to laugh dismissively at us. Except that instead of dismissing us, you keep coming back to argue.
     
  11. Robert91791

    Robert91791 Well-Known Member

    Wow what authority...what a ridiculous..assumption..worst idiot
     
  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    "I've been called worse things by better people."
     
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  13. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

  14. Robert91791

    Robert91791 Well-Known Member

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  15. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    If you are worried about the dark stuff in the crevices of the design, Leave that alone. If they were dug out of mud, then a soak in soap and water is fine. No scrubbing or digging at them with toothpicks.
     
  16. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I'd add "don't forget to rinse thoroughly". If they're dug out of mud, you're starting at a disadvantage, but there's no point in leaving soap residue. Pure soap or detergent probably won't react with the coin, but scenting agents are another matter.
     
  17. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    What you say makes a lot of sense. Almost no matter what agent you use to clean a coin, if you leave residue, it will end up making it look worse than you started from if the residue reacts with the coin or the environment.
     
  18. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    Perhaps she didn't notice that they were silver - copper coins and not copper- nickel.
     
  19. Robert91791

    Robert91791 Well-Known Member

    observation on Copper-nickel only. 1980 coin
     
  20. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    There is a vast difference in hardness of the outer nickel layer on such a coin compare to 90% silver 10% copper, also chemical reactivity , and other factors. What type of microscope did she use to compare surfaces? 30X stereomicroscope or even better a SEM? The naked eye can not detect such damage, but under magnification, even 10X , it can be seen if one knows what they are looking for. Jim
     
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  21. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    What did she use as a reference to quantify the luster changes. Since there aren't really any quantifiable standards, I'm assuming this was done subjectively and based on her experience evaluating luster on high grade coins
     
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