Was this a PCGS mistake ?

What the heck does this have to do with anything?

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Read the post. If BS is slung long enough, people will believe it.

Now I'll add, when BS or anything else is slung around, some won't understand it anyway. Oh look, more faces.

 

Sorry I looked up the only number you supplied for this one

 

They might not even do that because the grade guarantee doesn't cover it. from their gurantee:

"The PCGS Guarantee does not apply to coins exhibiting environmental deterioration subsequent to PCGS grading and encapsulation. This deterioration may include, but is not limited to, spotting, hazing, PVC contamination, changes in color, and corrosion."

So if the spot developed after it was slabbed, too bad, not covered.

 

Do you know the approximate date this guarantee was put into place. I just though they didn't guarantee copper and SE. The new wording covers anything that happens in a slab. Heck, if the filters are not changed on the air hoses from the compressor, even the assembly workers can spray a moisture mist on the coin as they blow out the cases!

 

PCGS has revised their guarantee many times in the past 12 years or so. I don't have copies of all of the changes I do know that language was in there before June of 2013 and it wasn't there in 2003. it was changed at some point etween those two times after PCGS had to make refunds on a lot of PF-70 ASE's that developed milkspots after being holdered. they solved their prolem by removing the guarantee from coins that turned in the holder and by deciding that milkspots don't preclude a grade of 70.

Doing some more research to try and narrow it down. As of June 2007 they were still saying they would cover milkspotting that developed after slabbing, but by Dec 2012 the grading guarantee was being quoted as not covering coins that went bad after slabbing.

In Sept of 2012 they were still compensating for coins that turned after slabbing, so apparently the laguage must have changed between Sept and Dec of 2012.

 

So much for "Guaranteed Grades"or "Grade Guarantees"!

 

I read it, still illogical.

and meaningless.

 

Get a grip, dude. His answer was the best because it remarks on the poor quality of many freshly minted coins. I'd say anyone with a brain could see that, but then you would likely want me to cite references proving that, so I will decline. Instead I will say that to me it seems he simply provided a truism.

 

You did a lot of research - thanks and 2 thumbs up! Hopefully more members can add to this as one day in the future, those interested in the history of TPGS's will wish we had!

That's CRAZY FOR PCGS TO DO THIS! What about a coin's eye appeal. Looks like the "Big Boys" and their wallet continues to lead all of us around by the nose.

WOW! Technical Grading = spots, white stains, and struck thru's on the coin when it came off the press are "as made" and ignored.

 

Do you know who conder is? Apparently not. You've lost every bit of credibility with me insider and I hope Peter at least takes away your ability to use emoji's if nothing else

 

You need an education sonny. LEARN TO READ before quoting me.

The poster I'm CALLING OUT made a statement about the internal workings of the Mint and refuses to withdraw his "fabrication" or tell us what he knows. Even you seem to know the Mint often sends out "problem" coins. Dah ...we all know that. THEN AFTER TELLING ALL OF US SOMETHING WE ALL KNOW, he added an interesting bit of "inside info?" about the Mint using a process to detect inferior coins. I just asked him (IN GOOD FAITH) to explain what he knew and so far all I have gotten is comments such as yours and more of HIS obfuscation and derision. I'm not the phony poster here.

That's all the time I am wasting on you dude.

 

You are incorrect. He made no statement about the internal workings of the Mint, except in your head. But carry on about not wasting time with me, I will enjoy that and perhaps really enjoy not seeing a bunch of emoji that do nothing to enhance your statements.

Love, Sonny.

 

Obviously you are nothing more than a troll. At no point did I ever say anything about the Mint using anything to detect anything. This has also been explained to you already but numerous people in a very clear manner that an elementary class would understand.

As usual though you would just spam threads with your "knowledge" and stories of how you teach TPGs and bla bla bla that really is just you stroking your ego. Everyone sees through you by now piecing enough of a previous posters advice into your "own superior knowledge" when really you are just winging it as you.

That is the last time I will reply to your nonsense in this thread

 

No, But I DO KNOW he is one of the more informed TRUE NUMISMATISTS on these forums. I don't think Condor has ever posted anything I found to be inaccurate.

Now, I don't know what brought this up BUT I'M REALLY HAPPY you are feeling better today!

 

Hey Dude...READ THIS. It is at least the THIRD TIME I have quoted him in this thread.

Now, read it again...

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My previous response about you taking things out of context rebutts this post nicely.

Quit making a mockery out of everything!

I think it's time I take @Log Potato's advice. Which, I might add, was brilliant

 

I asked you to tell us all what you know about your statement below. That's all. I like to be informed.

A simple clarification could have settled this long ago. I don't suffer BS (except fish stories) when it comes to numismatics.

PS I'm also waiting ZZZZZZZ for you to post one of my contradictions you boast to have read. Now please go away with the other dude who cannot read either...Buzz, Buzz, Swat!

 

I just figured out why you were ragging on me. I DIDN'T SAY CONDOR WAS CRAZY (SEE MY EDIT). PCGS is CRAZY if that is what they are doing (I have no reason to doubt what Condor wrote as I am totally UNINFORMED (ignorant) on the current practices of PCGS (My Post#45).

I'm loosing faith in MANY OF YOU here. DOES ANYONE KNOW THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE? What about the "context" of a post?