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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 3210884, member: 24314&quot;]First off, The coin has a <b><span style="color: #b30000">very deep gouge</span></b> that no one working at a TPGS (including the maintenence man at on of the fly-by-night self slabers would miss in the dark.&nbsp; Next, there needs to be a way to educate folks about what they see on a coin so we can all speak the same language.&nbsp; Words as hairline, staple scratch, excessive cleaning, etc mean something.&nbsp; A very deep gouge is not a scratch and was not made by a pointed piece of wood or plastic!&nbsp; A steal pin or needle didn&#039;t make it either.&nbsp; Lot&#039;s of &quot;someones&quot; - all the way to QC at PCGS screwed up BIG TIME.&nbsp; Pointing this out is rather silly to me.&nbsp; Six pages?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Now I&#039;ll try to add something constructive.&nbsp; I&#039;ve noticed more damaged coins (from minor to noticeable) are being straight graded.&nbsp; <span style="color: #b300b3">FORGET THE OP&#039;S COIN - it does not apply to this post.</span></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><b>THIS IS THE PROBLEM</b> as I see it and it comes down to what each of us think as a dealer, professional grader, or collector: </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I personally do not wish to find any PMD on a coin in my collection.&nbsp; I also don&#039;t wish to straight grade anything I would not want in my personal collection.&nbsp; THAT&#039;S NOT REALISTIC.&nbsp; If you look at a circulated coin long enough, you&#039;ll see something.&nbsp; Now a grader must make a decision.&nbsp; Example:&nbsp; We had an XF half cent in last week.&nbsp; It was straight graded.&nbsp; However, under QC, I &quot;detailed it&quot; for the several thin, unnoticable scratches under the &quot;cent&quot; that were close to the entire lengh of the word.&nbsp; A ten minute &quot;discussion&quot; about commercial grading, value, fairness, etc. took place.&nbsp; The owner of the company was called in.&nbsp; It took him about fifteen seconds to see the schs when I asked him if it should go out straight graded.&nbsp; So, what do you think,&nbsp; Too conservative to protect the next puyer.&nbsp; Net grade the coin to VF and let folks think ICG cant grade.&nbsp; Straight grade it and when it&#039;s time to seel the dealer is going to point out the defect and &quot;surprise!&quot;&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You are responsible to check the coins you buy.&nbsp; TPGS&#039;s have their own standards.&nbsp; LEARN THEM.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>e,[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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