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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;mrbrklyn, post: 112269, member: 4381&quot;]It&#039;s not a matter of thinking differently, but thinking objectively.</p><p><br /></p><p>This doesn&#039;t hold up to objective evaluation.&nbsp; There is no &quot;natual&quot; coin.&nbsp; (there are no more natural apples either but that is a different discussion).&nbsp; It is pure and unprovable speculation where any deviation from perfection is obtained.&nbsp; You have no clue if it is in the mint, in the bag, in the truck, in storage at the treasury, or because the coin fell on the subway plaform.</p><p><br /></p><p>What you do have is a coin which is measurably and objectively deviant from an asumed perfect state.&nbsp; This is the first rule of scientific observation.&nbsp; Observe and measure what is in front of you with defined precision and accuracy.</p><p><br /></p><p>Consider this, within the FIRST page of the linked book!</p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;To put things into better perspective. in fewer than 15 years, a MINT STATE-65 coin has gone from being an above average mint state coin (approximately I out of 2 or 3) to being a choice or gem coin (perhaps I out of 25!). The reason for this change is that there has never been a standard for grading mint state coins. If the pricing guides said that a MINT STATE-65 Barber Quarter was worth $3,000, then a Barber Quarter worth $3,000 was &quot;today&#039;s&quot; Mint State-65. That didn&#039;t mean the same coin would be tomorrow&#039;s MINT STATE-65, when the pricing guides say $5,000, nor did it mean that coin was last year&#039;s MINT STATE-65, when the pricing guides listed MS-65 Barber Quarters at $2,000.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>Consider this the next time you bid for a coin in an old PCGS slab...</p><p><br /></p><p>Doug, experienced fellows like you and I know that 15 years is a blink of an eye.</p><p><br /></p><p>There is to much effort and time wasted on making subjective evaluations on damage.&nbsp; So a&nbsp; MS68 1881 Morgan O is not held to the same standards as a 1881P because of weak strikes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Man, aside from the fact that weak strikes are UGLY, let the grading BE.&nbsp; If there are no MS69 coins from New Orlean&#039;s, the MARKET can worry about the value.&nbsp; The grader needs to plainly grade off of the one and only objective standard.</p><p><br /></p><p>The whole MS needs to be taken away for the grade.&nbsp; The grade is 68, or 70, or 58 because of a sratch... not body bagged.</p><p><br /></p><p>The only time a coin should be body bagged is when it was artificially enhanced, or damaged with the intention to fool the buyer (ie Whizzing it)</p><p><br /></p><p>Ruben[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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