Hi, Seattlelite86. Got to say, I was rather stunned at the price, $1,600. Myself being at the Scroogy end of the spectrum, I haven't ever paid over a £100. (British pounds} budget, for one single coin. But, despite that, I have managed to come across a few rare, and beautiful, ancients and others. However, If your finances allow it, and it keeps you happy, why not ? As I thought earlier, that coin is probably quite a pearl !
Wow - that's a handsome old coin, hope it gives your many years of enjoyment - too bad you busted the bank, though
It’s here!!! Sorry for the poor lighting on the photos. I’ll be sending it tomorrow to NGC. With a loupe, I cannot see any traces of cleaning. It is a bit darker in hand. Otherwise, I’m very happy with it!
The price is incredibly high, 2.75 times my yearly budget for coins. I, and most importantly my wife, made a special exception for this purchase. This coin will most likely remain in my collection until I pass and “outlive” most every other coin in my collection. In fact, I need to start selling some of them if I want to ever start buying coins again.
Congratulations! A double thaler! Wow. You know I have to post its little brother - a quarter-thaler, which itself is not a small coin (roughly the size of a US half dollar). I can only imagine the size and heft of your piece.
Thank you and I’d have been disappointed if you didn’t post its little brother. I’m a huge fan of the design. I’ll probably do a write up of its history in a bit. Quite fascinating.
We, probably all, look forward to your write-up, maybe in the near future. Including the knights colors and banner etc. The family background, almost certainly of nobility, would be of interest, too. And any "adventures", such as fighting in Jerusalem, during the crusades. The years, of the coins, would provide some clues as to the history. - Seems that Shakespeare turned 50 in 1614 !
Weigh your double Taler and measure diameter before it disappears into plastic ! Useful information that cannot easily be recovered afterwards.
This is sound advice, as there a few pieces in my collection I don't have that data for. One is then forced to put silly, vague notations like "weight unrecorded prior to certification", or "approx. 30 mm" in one's writeups, which can bedevil the more meticulous cataloguers among us. I am a lazy cataloguer- always way behind in the task- but when I actually do sit down to do it, I am meticulous about it, and little things like that can irk me. Oh- one other thing- get a good set of photos before (or with) encspsulation. This is one primary reason I use PCGS, for the TrueView images that come with their Secure Plus/Gold Shield service. Anytime you want to subsequently photograph an NGC coin post-certification, those white prongs will intrude. Best to have good photos before the slabbing happens.
The coin is on its way to NGC for grading. Cross your fingers or say a prayer for me! My guess/hope is AU53. Feel free to toss out your guesses.
Unfortunately NGC photo vision is not available for on-site grading events across Europe. So they’ll only take “standard” pictures for the cert lookup. On a positive note, grading should only take about 2-3 weeks.
Hey Folks, NGC is going to ship it back to me soon. If you'd like to GTG, click here (I tried to tag most of you) https://www.cointalk.com/threads/gtg-german-states-1614-doppeltaler-hall-austria.339292/ Edit: @micbraun don't spoil it