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<p>[QUOTE="Ocatarinetabellatchitchix, post: 3568794, member: 99554"]Now I have your attention. I’m smiling imagining the moderators squad of CT watching if the rules of decency have been broken here. But let’s be frank; we are going to talk about flesh, skin and nudity....in roman coinage...</p><p><br /></p><p>My wife keeps telling me for 25 years, when I’m coming out of the shower, Ocat you have the body of a god. Well thank you for the compliment. It made me think of how romans were considering nudity in life. At the opposite of the greeks, for them it was a shame to be naked in public. It was inconceivable for the average citizen of the empire and would have been a social transgression not wearing any clothes. It was a synonym of humiliation and a punishment. For example, convicts and slaves were undressed in public. The poet <i>Ennius </i>(239-169 BC)even wrote that "exposing naked bodies among citizens is the beginning of public disgrace (flagitium). One exception to public nudity was the <i>Therma</i>, though attitudes toward nude bathing also changed over time. </p><p><br /></p><p>But it’s a whole different story on roman coinage. Somebody once wrote : nudity is the usual « costume » of the gods. The frequent representations of nudity in the Roman imperial coinage are part of an ideological discourse celebrating the success and durability of the Empire. Nudity was in fact acceptable and accepted. It has received little comment, either from ancient authors or scholars of the modern era. The gods and hero are generally represented in nudity, whether it is integral or partially masked by a garment. For example, Jupiter, Neptune ,Hercules and Mars are often half or bare naked on many coins. Meanwhile, the deities and feminine allegories never appear totally naked, and rarely partially undressed. Venus is naturally the goddess who reveals its most charms, especially when it is in its victorious dimension.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you do a quick research on acsearch, you will be able to find hundreds of nice examples on Roman imperial coinage.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]949849[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]949850[/ATTACH] </p><p>Here are my 2 examples :</p><p>Maximinus II</p><p>Jupiter naked</p><p>[ATTACH=full]949852[/ATTACH] </p><p>Crispus</p><p>Mars half naked</p><p>[ATTACH=full]949853[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So now it’s the time to show us coins you’re shy to share with your visitors or you won’t dare to expose to your kids. Show us some nudity!</p><p><b>P.S. My wife just saw my post and forced me to make a precision about her comment on my god’s body : it seems that she was more referring to Buddha than to Apollo...<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></b>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ocatarinetabellatchitchix, post: 3568794, member: 99554"]Now I have your attention. I’m smiling imagining the moderators squad of CT watching if the rules of decency have been broken here. But let’s be frank; we are going to talk about flesh, skin and nudity....in roman coinage... My wife keeps telling me for 25 years, when I’m coming out of the shower, Ocat you have the body of a god. Well thank you for the compliment. It made me think of how romans were considering nudity in life. At the opposite of the greeks, for them it was a shame to be naked in public. It was inconceivable for the average citizen of the empire and would have been a social transgression not wearing any clothes. It was a synonym of humiliation and a punishment. For example, convicts and slaves were undressed in public. The poet [I]Ennius [/I](239-169 BC)even wrote that "exposing naked bodies among citizens is the beginning of public disgrace (flagitium). One exception to public nudity was the [I]Therma[/I], though attitudes toward nude bathing also changed over time. But it’s a whole different story on roman coinage. Somebody once wrote : nudity is the usual « costume » of the gods. The frequent representations of nudity in the Roman imperial coinage are part of an ideological discourse celebrating the success and durability of the Empire. Nudity was in fact acceptable and accepted. It has received little comment, either from ancient authors or scholars of the modern era. The gods and hero are generally represented in nudity, whether it is integral or partially masked by a garment. For example, Jupiter, Neptune ,Hercules and Mars are often half or bare naked on many coins. Meanwhile, the deities and feminine allegories never appear totally naked, and rarely partially undressed. Venus is naturally the goddess who reveals its most charms, especially when it is in its victorious dimension. If you do a quick research on acsearch, you will be able to find hundreds of nice examples on Roman imperial coinage. [ATTACH=full]949849[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]949850[/ATTACH] Here are my 2 examples : Maximinus II Jupiter naked [ATTACH=full]949852[/ATTACH] Crispus Mars half naked [ATTACH=full]949853[/ATTACH] So now it’s the time to show us coins you’re shy to share with your visitors or you won’t dare to expose to your kids. Show us some nudity! [B]P.S. My wife just saw my post and forced me to make a precision about her comment on my god’s body : it seems that she was more referring to Buddha than to Apollo...:([/B][/QUOTE]
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