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Message:: [QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2282663, member: 1892"]Look at all of the coins he's offering with this "black/white" appearance. Note that they all, to one extent or another, have an area of color along the periphery. This is a hint that he's either using two types of bulbs to light the coin or a circular fluorescent. Circlines have a collar around where the wires enter the bulb, and that part of the bulb doesn't illuminate like the rest of the circumference. The color temperature it outputs is different, especially if the bulb hasn't warmed up yet, and it casts an arc of color as seen here. It's also the best way to bring out the "black and white" look in a Proof. [ATTACH=full]456416[/ATTACH] I allowed enough time for the bulb to warm up for that one, and had figured out the best distance between bulb and coin (higher than one might think), but you can still see the same effect a bit. The collar is at Noon in this pic. When you get it right, it's like this: [ATTACH=full]456419[/ATTACH] Just mentioning this to illustrate how photographic technique can affect the look of the final product. Morgans can lend themselves to this - there are plenty around with near-PL surfaces and near-frosty devices which are amenable to this kind of....photographic enthusiasm. In case you're wondering, this is what the same lighting technique does to a coin with normal cartwheel: [ATTACH=full]456420[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]