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<p>[QUOTE="Valentinian, post: 4851712, member: 44316"]True. My thought is that the coin I posted and others show that often vows are not from the year on the coin--rather they anticipated the year on the coin by ten years. For example,</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1171694[/ATTACH]</p><p>Galerius</p><p>15-14 mm. 1.50 grams. "1/8"</p><p>Struck as Caesar c. Sept. 303 at Trier.</p><p>I agree with the date.</p><p>My interpretation: At this time Galerius had ruled as Caesar for ten years and was renewing vows for twenty years, thus XX on the coin.</p><p>Another interpretation: The XX refers to vows of the senior emperor, Diocletian, which were being paid.</p><p>MAXIMI-ANVS NC</p><p>VOT/XX/CAESS</p><p><i>RIC</i> Trier 611 "R3, c. Sept. 303"</p><p>Zschucke 4.7, "for the vicennalia of Diocletian in September 303."</p><p><br /></p><p>The XX on this coin of Galerius might refer to the reign of Diocletian (but then, why does it says "CAES"?) If the XX on the coin belongs to Galerius, it is issued at ten years with reference to XX which is ten years in the future. Why isn't the Diocletian XX coin also issued with reference to ten years in the future? (That is, issued ten years before late 303.) How do we explain the Maximian XXX fractions if they are not referencing the future? Examples are here:</p><p><a href="http://augustuscoins.com/ed/VOTA/fractions.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://augustuscoins.com/ed/VOTA/fractions.html" rel="nofollow">http://augustuscoins.com/ed/VOTA/fractions.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I agree that XX coins <b>could</b> refer to celebrating the vicennalia <b>that year</b>. That is evidence that the Diocletian XX piece <b>could</b> be from late 303. Other, explicitly dated XX vota coins, are from ten years before the XX-year event. That is evidence the Diocletian coin <b>could</b> be from ten years earlier. I wonder what evidence we have to decide between the two.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Valentinian, post: 4851712, member: 44316"]True. My thought is that the coin I posted and others show that often vows are not from the year on the coin--rather they anticipated the year on the coin by ten years. For example, [ATTACH=full]1171694[/ATTACH] Galerius 15-14 mm. 1.50 grams. "1/8" Struck as Caesar c. Sept. 303 at Trier. I agree with the date. My interpretation: At this time Galerius had ruled as Caesar for ten years and was renewing vows for twenty years, thus XX on the coin. Another interpretation: The XX refers to vows of the senior emperor, Diocletian, which were being paid. MAXIMI-ANVS NC VOT/XX/CAESS [I]RIC[/I] Trier 611 "R3, c. Sept. 303" Zschucke 4.7, "for the vicennalia of Diocletian in September 303." The XX on this coin of Galerius might refer to the reign of Diocletian (but then, why does it says "CAES"?) If the XX on the coin belongs to Galerius, it is issued at ten years with reference to XX which is ten years in the future. Why isn't the Diocletian XX coin also issued with reference to ten years in the future? (That is, issued ten years before late 303.) How do we explain the Maximian XXX fractions if they are not referencing the future? Examples are here: [URL]http://augustuscoins.com/ed/VOTA/fractions.html[/URL] I agree that XX coins [B]could[/B] refer to celebrating the vicennalia [B]that year[/B]. That is evidence that the Diocletian XX piece [B]could[/B] be from late 303. Other, explicitly dated XX vota coins, are from ten years before the XX-year event. That is evidence the Diocletian coin [B]could[/B] be from ten years earlier. I wonder what evidence we have to decide between the two.[/QUOTE]
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