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<p>[QUOTE="NorthKorea, post: 1778667, member: 29643"]Tim,</p><p> </p><p>First off, your second post (notice, the first reply to the thread was from you...) contradicts your first post, since you bought two coins over $20. Secondly, you shouldn't be buying coins on layaway, but that's something else entirely.</p><p> </p><p>That said, I don't think $89 was a good price, but it's the price you were willing to pay.</p><p> </p><p>5 MS63</p><p>8 MS64</p><p>9 MS65</p><p>6 MS66</p><p>1 MS67</p><p> </p><p>Based upon the above coins being graded by NGC, I'd assume (perhaps wrongly), that MS66 coins would guide (on average) about 50-70% over MS63, with extra being offered here or there for better eye appeal. MS67 would see a bump for top grade, I suppose (depending upon overall demand, of course).</p><p> </p><p>I would say MS66 would probably retail about $75-$85, so you overpaid a bit, but it's a coin you wanted, and you're happy with the purchase.</p><p> </p><p>I don't think PCGS would upgrade the SOHO. Are you planning to crack the coins out to submit them? There are two fairly large scratches coming off the neck into the field on the obverse. Also, overall "black/grey" color to the coin would limit eye appeal, even with reasonably strong details. Beyond that, the third I in "3" is nicked up somewhat, and there is overall weakness to the center details of the coin. I wouldn't risk cracking it out, personally, and submitting it in the holder is simply throwing money away, since it will be returned in an NGC holder (worst case for you, since you dislike the holders) or come back with a PCGS MS63 holder (which might actually be worse for marketability of the coin, since NGC is more widely known for world coins).</p><p> </p><p>Here are the SOHO (BN) grades:</p><p> </p><p>NGC</p><p>7 MS63</p><p>11 MS64</p><p>6 MS65</p><p>5 MS66</p><p> </p><p>PCGS</p><p>4 MS62</p><p>6 MS63</p><p>7 MS64</p><p>4 MS65</p><p> </p><p>It's doubtful, with that many MS64/65 grades out there that your MS63 would be pushing upgrade quality for MS64. Also, looking at the two MS64 coins on coinfacts, I would guess your coin would <b>not</b> be upgrading to an MS64, and it might actually get downgraded to MS62. Personally, I'd just leave things be. If you absolutely must do something, send it to CAC. Another issue with this particular coin is the potential for rim damage being hidden by the NGC tab.</p><p> </p><p>Beyond ALL of that, it's fiduciary irresponsibility to regrade that coin to hope for a MS64 upgrade. You'll have to pay $45 to get it graded if you send it as a crossover, since the PCGS "value" of a MS63 is $300+. It wouldn't qualify for economy price unless you submitted it raw. So, essentially, you'll be $270 into the coin, not including shipping fees, simply because you want a different slab, and *think* it might upgrade to a MS64, which would hold a probable resale value of $280.</p><p> </p><p>I don't see how these coins fit your entire thing about changing your buying habits to only buy the best coins. If you prefer PCGS holders, buy coins in PCGS holders.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="NorthKorea, post: 1778667, member: 29643"]Tim, First off, your second post (notice, the first reply to the thread was from you...) contradicts your first post, since you bought two coins over $20. Secondly, you shouldn't be buying coins on layaway, but that's something else entirely. That said, I don't think $89 was a good price, but it's the price you were willing to pay. 5 MS63 8 MS64 9 MS65 6 MS66 1 MS67 Based upon the above coins being graded by NGC, I'd assume (perhaps wrongly), that MS66 coins would guide (on average) about 50-70% over MS63, with extra being offered here or there for better eye appeal. MS67 would see a bump for top grade, I suppose (depending upon overall demand, of course). I would say MS66 would probably retail about $75-$85, so you overpaid a bit, but it's a coin you wanted, and you're happy with the purchase. I don't think PCGS would upgrade the SOHO. Are you planning to crack the coins out to submit them? There are two fairly large scratches coming off the neck into the field on the obverse. Also, overall "black/grey" color to the coin would limit eye appeal, even with reasonably strong details. Beyond that, the third I in "3" is nicked up somewhat, and there is overall weakness to the center details of the coin. I wouldn't risk cracking it out, personally, and submitting it in the holder is simply throwing money away, since it will be returned in an NGC holder (worst case for you, since you dislike the holders) or come back with a PCGS MS63 holder (which might actually be worse for marketability of the coin, since NGC is more widely known for world coins). Here are the SOHO (BN) grades: NGC 7 MS63 11 MS64 6 MS65 5 MS66 PCGS 4 MS62 6 MS63 7 MS64 4 MS65 It's doubtful, with that many MS64/65 grades out there that your MS63 would be pushing upgrade quality for MS64. Also, looking at the two MS64 coins on coinfacts, I would guess your coin would [B]not[/B] be upgrading to an MS64, and it might actually get downgraded to MS62. Personally, I'd just leave things be. If you absolutely must do something, send it to CAC. Another issue with this particular coin is the potential for rim damage being hidden by the NGC tab. Beyond ALL of that, it's fiduciary irresponsibility to regrade that coin to hope for a MS64 upgrade. You'll have to pay $45 to get it graded if you send it as a crossover, since the PCGS "value" of a MS63 is $300+. It wouldn't qualify for economy price unless you submitted it raw. So, essentially, you'll be $270 into the coin, not including shipping fees, simply because you want a different slab, and *think* it might upgrade to a MS64, which would hold a probable resale value of $280. I don't see how these coins fit your entire thing about changing your buying habits to only buy the best coins. If you prefer PCGS holders, buy coins in PCGS holders.[/QUOTE]
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