Vitellius or Vespasian? Round Two

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by David Atherton, Mar 5, 2017.

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Which portrait is Vespasian's?

  1. Coin 1

    4 vote(s)
    12.9%
  2. Coin 2

    5 vote(s)
    16.1%
  3. Coin 3

    14 vote(s)
    45.2%
  4. Coin 4

    8 vote(s)
    25.8%
  1. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    I have another early Vespasian denarius with Vitellian features on the way. Which one is it? (This is a bit harder than the last quiz!)

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    I will share the answer and the coin once it is in hand in a few days.
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    This is harder than the last one. My guess is #3.

    #1 has clear features of Vitellius. #2 looks more like a Vitellius/Otho mashup. #4 is a possibility, although the profile looks more like Vitellius than does #3.
     
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  4. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    all your choices make you change your mind...
     
  5. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    i'll gut go #1.. but may end up a #2><
     
  6. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    For me it's a toss-up between 3 or 4....so a coin flip chooses----#3
     
  7. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    3 or 4 here too. I go with #3.
     
  8. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I went with #3, my first gut response.
     
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  9. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Glad I voted before I scrolled down. I think I would've just got confused.
    #3 is what the voice in my head said.
     
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  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I'll go for number 3, so for the rest of you I'm probably wrong. Pick one of the others.
     
  11. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    I actually think #1 is the most Vespasianish, so I went with that one.
     
  12. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    I'm going to go with #2
     
  13. alde

    alde Always Learning

    This one is tougher. I went with number 2 again. These are very good exercises. Thanks for doing this.
     
  14. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    i though 3
     
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    ro1974 Well-Known Member

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  16. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    It's a poll to vote which one you think is Vespasian. The other 3 are Vitellius.
     
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  17. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Please vote if you haven't already done so. I'll be updating with the answer in a couple of days once the coin is in hand.
     
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  18. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    The coin arrived yesterday and now I'm ready to post the answer.

    *Drum roll*



    Coin #1 is Vespasian.

    V21comp.jpg

    V21lg.jpg
    Vespasian
    AR Denarius, 2.82g
    Rome Mint, 69-70 AD
    RIC 21 (C), BMC 17, RSC 94a
    Obv: IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r.
    Rev: COS ITER TR POT; Aequitas, draped, standing l., holding scales in r. hand, transverse rod in l.

    The coin was likely struck in the early weeks of Vespasian's reign, which would account for the unusual portrait.

    Those of you who guessed wrong, keep in mind this is a strikingly Vitellius-like portrait. The quiz would've fooled me too!
     
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  19. alde

    alde Always Learning

    Wow, that would be the last one I would guess. To me it shows how important the propaganda was in advertising the new emperor. He had to establish himself as early as possible.
     
  20. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Cool. I voted #4, but #1 wouldn't have even been my second choice. I would have chosen #2 over #1.

    Do all varieties of RIC 21c look like Vitellius, or just some?
     
  21. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Artist & Historian Supporter

    This is a tough one! My emporer identification skills are severely limited. It became evident to me when I purchased Titus denarii thinking they were Vespasians.
     
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