Virus warning ! - read this immediately -

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  1. EyeEatWheaties

    EyeEatWheaties Cent Hoarder

    If anyone cares:

    this is what Photobucket sent me. Funny how I had to get mean and nasty to get a response. See Doug? I am a victim of my environment? :) Diplomacy and Politcal correctness gets little done.

    I did, in reply, let them off the hook a bit. I told them that based on the information I had. That the warning screen that Norton pops up for this type of issue, is not clear enough for the casual user to understand and is what ultimately caused the confusion.
     
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  3. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    .GIF files are completely different from jpeg files, and no one has ever disputed that .gif files can contain viruses. You're taking very specific attributes of very specific file formats and trying to fit them all into the very non-specific name "images". That's like saying that since an Indian Head Cent could have a misplaced date then all coins could potentially have misplaced dates. None of Eyes images were .gif; they were all .jpeg. As of yet I haven't found a single example of a virus embedded in a .jpeg image file, and haven't found a single expert that says it can be done.
     
  4. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    I was wondering about that and have been meaning to message you. Tyler didn't receive the first batch I sent him either, but he did just receive the second batch. I haven't heard from him yet if he's had a chance to get them on the way to you. I'll send some more your way.
     
  5. smokeriderdon

    smokeriderdon New Member

    The images files you linked appear to be threat-free. However, another user’s account in the subdomain (i191) of Photbucket dot com appears to have an infected file. Therefore, since the papasteeze account is on the same subdomain (i191), the website is being referred to as potentially malicious.


    So in other words, the only thing that was infected was someone elses file that happened to be on the same sub domain and Norton had tagged that as a possible issue. Stress the WEBSITE was tagged as possibly malicious. And that was all I got from the screen shot you showed as well. A possible threat from the WEBSITE. And really not sure why that showed for you and not on mine. That aside, I think screaming the sky is falling directed at Eye and not the website was a bit beyond necessary.
     
  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Kill the messenger. I'm still thankful for the warning.......
     
  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'm glad Doug posted the warning. Potentially malicious is not something to ignore.
     
  8. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Yes thanks Doug :)
     
  9. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    I don't fault Doug; I fault the worthless that is Nortons AV. Patently false information is absolutely something that should be ignored. But hey, if you're charging people ridiculous amounts of money and you can't keep up with the current threats, why not throw up some false positives from years old threats? Just to make people think they're getting their money's worth.
     
  10. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    There are times when moderators and administrators ( Doug) have to make decisions that protects the forum site from potentially malicious problems. Hopefully few see the spam messages that link to unknown websites that are eliminated as quickly as we can. And thanks to the many members who draw our attention to problem posts. There are only so many posts that we can read and really depend on the help of others. If the whole site went down due to malware, everyone would be yelling for better action against such. I wonder why Photobucket didn't detect and eliminate the malware on their server ( not on Eyeeatwheaties account but someone else's) Don't they run scanners also? Thanks Doug!

    Jim
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I've explained the entire situation forty eleven different ways. There was no false positive - ever. There was an infected image on the Photobucket servers, even Photobucket admits this. And finally, yesterday afternoon, Photobucket removed the infected image. And once they did that, wonder of wonders, Norton no longer pops a warning when other images hosted on that i191 sub-domain are viewed.

    And Jody, perhaps you should read this - http://www.crn.com/news/channel-pro...;jsessionid=KJjGLVouB5wUEt44sz-jqQ**.ecappj03 - You might want to make note of the date of that story, and note that it specifically mentions .jpg files.

    Then do an advanced search on Google for this question - can image files be infected with a virus ? You'll find that the answer is yes.
     
  12. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    Gomez, perhaps you should take your reluctance to believe the words of the photobucket administration , directly to them. We all understand you believe to disbelieve GD regardless of who verified what .
     
  13. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    No false positives?!

    Are you talking about this "virus" which really isn't a virus and requires that you first download an executable portion of the "virus" before anything happens to your .jpeg images, which is basically harmless nothing?

    http://antivirus.about.com/od/virusdescriptions/a/perrun.htm

    As I said previously, I never said that "image" files couldn't be infected with a virus; I've been referring to a very specific type of image file: the .jpeg. Why don't you do an advanced google search for that specific type of image file and see what the expert opinion is?
     
  14. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    I have no idea what the words of the photobucket administration are, but I can almost guarantee you that they did not say that .jpegs could be infected with a true virus. If they did, then they are wrong.

    No one has verified anything that contradicts what I've been saying; you can't insert a true, replicating virus into a .jpeg image. As I've stated before, if anyone thinks they've found one or created one, I'll happily give you my email address and you can send me either the image, or if you prefer not to go near it, the link to where this supposed .jpeg virus can be found.
     
  15. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    And for the record!!!...I commend Doug and the moderators for being safe rather than sorry. Misinformation is misinformation though, and I'm trying to counter that.
     
  16. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    No need to "counter" Cessna Jockey. Folks who know Ya love ya.........
     
  17. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Thanks Green! And yet again, I fully support Doug's orginal choice! He and I merely disagree at this late hour. :)
     
  18. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Yup. Da Sheriff do be sleeping for sure. Time to get naughty on the forums.......oh dear. I think Jim's in attendance. Never mind.....:)
     
  19. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Jim doesn't care...watch this. *$&%&% #$#$# ***(edited by Jim for saying that he should monitor each and every post around the clock) :D

    Gezzz, can't I get some free time to count all of the money I made from PMs today ???


     
  20. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    Gomez, perhaps you may want to re-read Doug's comments again.
     
  21. EyeEatWheaties

    EyeEatWheaties Cent Hoarder

    Here again. That image that has nothing to do - nor would it have anything to with anyone except Doug and how he has his settings in his Software set.

    Getting a warning message that there are viruses on other parts of a website unrelated to a post here isn't much difference than getting a warning whenever you type www.

    Coinman456 - Animated .gifs (which is what Doug and photobucket are referencing is a whole nother ballgame) - The little smiley faces in your signature are animated .gifs - they typically are a sequence of images that require additional script to play. The Animated Lincoln I posted on the previous page is actually 10 images . The virus would have to written into the code that makes the image appear to move, not one of the 10 images that make up the animation.

    Not sure if that makes sense.

    Regardless. In order for anyone here to find that image on the photobucket website, they would have had to erased my photobucket account name, then insert the member's name who had the bad file and then type the album name and click on that specific animated gif that had the virus. The probability of that happening is astronomical. impossible. First off unless you got the warning, you would never know who or what the members account name was. _ you wouldn't know which album - and you certainly wouldn't have known which image.

    That makes the quote in your post totally moot and just proves how ridiculous and time wasting this whole thread is. I hope that some people learned something however I am afraid that most will only remember that I have infected files, because sadly people don't look and find the truth, because it's easier to point the finger the other way
     
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