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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Drusus, post: 510392, member: 6370&quot;]It happens to everyone...even long time sellers and so called experts get fooled...the only difference is, the seller passes it on to a buyer unwittingly if he doesnt catch it and if he is a &#039;trusted&#039; seller...well...you get the process. Recently a long time trusted seller had a bunch of rather glaring fakes for sale which were uncovered by the CFDL. Some people defended the seller by saying he has a good reputation and we all make mistakes. What if they had sold? When it was pointed out...would he have contacted the people and let them know? How does a long time trusted dealer take photos and catalog a fake coin without noticing they are fake? Maybe because he was careless? had others doing the work for him? Or just didnt know as much as he should have? </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>One thing I cannot stress enough is to look at the source of the advice you are given. I am not saying a seller is a poor source for advice but in the end, know that a coin salesman wants to sell a coin. How many people have taken a coin to a coin seller and he has a thousand different reason why he can only pay you a small fraction of the coins worth? These are the people giving advice a lot of times. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>One advice you hear a lot is to use a seller you trust or has a good reputation. This will certainly not keep you from buying fakes but it might help....as a good seller (we all hope) WILL try to eliminate them if they come across their plate...but to be honest...If its between the seller taking a large loss and being able to unload a high priced &#039;dangerous&#039; fake...I have a feeling many would pass it on...I might be cynical. Some of these ancients are very expensive, to have to cover a loss like say...15,000 on a fake gold aureus...that could put a serious hurt on many...so my trust will only go so far and I sadly look at every sell as a possible scam and look for people who are impartial to help verify.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>On thing I find people asking when you bring a coin to a forum is &#039;who is the seller?&#039;...why does that matter as to whether the coin is authentic or not. If you are an expert, who is selling it has no bearing as to whether you can tell if that coin is fake or not...its either a fake or it isnt...you can either tell or you cant. If they ask who the seller is...I assume then and there the coin, if fake, is a good one and has fooled that expert.....Of course pictures are sometimes hard to tell...but so many do not see a coin in hand before they buy. When the guy says &#039;why not buy the one I am selling&#039; instead of giving any real advice...well... </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I used to not frequent the forums and when I started to I went to certain forums thinking they were a certain way...they were there to help. I soon found out that there is often a very fuzzy line (some places quite a clear line) between &#039;expert&#039; and &#039;coin seller&#039; and these two might not go very well together. Some times the business over powers good advice. I find those places that do not blur the line to at least be better. If soeone says...this is my coin shop and I dont want this and this and that to be discussed...its not hidden.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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