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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Drusus, post: 510139, member: 6370&quot;]One thing to remember, and he says it often on his forum, Joe sells coins...he doesnt want to scare off potential buyers with talk of so called &#039;dangerous&#039; fakes and saying a fake might deceive an expert is a general no no. Forum, which is otherwise a great place to learn...in the end, is in the business of selling coins which is paramount and takes importance over all else. Although, not only do you see respected dealers being found selling fakes being exposed on CFDL, on his forum you will often find his appointed experts disagreeing about the authenticity of a coin...there are coins certified by Sear and TPGs that have been found to be fake...anyone can be fooled from top down. Apparently he and maybe another made his first post just to dispell worries about these lovely replicas <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>These coins, without doubt, are used to rip off people who do not know better. that is why I hate when people try to differentiate between &#039;dangerous&#039; fakes and fakes that aren&#039;t &#039;dangerous&#039;. I have seen people bidding on fakes that are obviously fakes to my eye...or altered replicas. These are dangerous to those people bidding obviously. Apparently if a coin cant fool most experts, its not dangerous. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>These will fool many buyers who do not know what they are doing well enough, the style is off a bit, but it is similar enough to ones found on coin archives to make one think it might just be a variation. They are not so different than the real deal to a person who doesnt know these types of coin intimately. So they CAN be deceptive or dangerous...to many. People who make and sell fakes or alter replicas like these and sell them as real are not trying to sell them to experts, they are trying to sell them to anyone else. Instead of downplaying fakes that are deemed &#039;not dangerous&#039;...to save business...ALL fakes and replicas should be considered dangerous and people should always be made aware of the the true extent of the fakes and relative ease of making these.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I also agree to buy from a trusted dealer but that in NO WAY means you will get an authentic coin. Who to trust? Some dealers know coins but a dealer doesnt not an expert make. He is human and can make mistakes and they often do. He might have bought a coin that is, indeed, a &#039;dangerous&#039; fake to his eyes and doesnt realize its a good fake...and if you trust that dealer then you probably wont take many steps to further authenticate the coin...thus you might be buying fakes and simply not know it. that trusted dealer might have a good return policy but if you dont know its fake then you wont be sending it back will you? If you bought a fake 5 years ago, that coin is now known to be fake...will he contact you and let you know you bought a fake from him? The only way IMO is to question everyone and every coin you see...<b>do not just put your trust in a person who is in the business of selling coins. No matter how knowledgable he comes off.</b></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I understand these coin are just replicas and there is nothing wrong with making and selling them. In the end...they are doing nothing wrong...but if they are doing it, how many more are and how &#039;dangerous&#039; are the ones they are making? I thought it was interesting to see the process of make a very nice replica, which would be pretty much the same as making a fake...Although the making of the dies is the most interesting part and you will notice they pass on no information on how they do it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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