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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Curtis, post: 8233315, member: 26430&quot;][USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER] , do you know when that National Numismatic Certification was done? I have one I eventually removed from an ICG slab but was reluctant to do so because it was an artifact of what I suspected was the first wave of ancients ever slabbed (certainly the first major auction of slabbed ancients). It was for Heritage 296&#039;s Dr. Joseph Seventko Collection (New York, 30 July 2002).</p><p><br /></p><p>(If you read issues of <i>The Celator</i> from 2001-2 you&#039;ll see the full page ads as part of a big promotion between Heritage and ICG. Incidentally, I think it may have been disastrous for Seventko, at least on the Tarsos coins, which appeared horribly in the photos and, wherever I could track them, sold for well under half of the prices of their previous and then later auction appearances -- in this case, $287.50 incl. fees in the slab, after selling for ~$620 at Athena Fund and [<b>edit</b>: OOPS, next one is Estimate] $650+fees at CNG XXIX in 1994, eventually even more when it reappeared at CNG in 2019. Heritage soon improved their slabbed photos.)</p><p><br /></p><p>By de-slabbing it, though, the tradeoff was that I was able to positively ID it as part of another bit of recent ancient coin market history: the Athena Fund sales at Sotheby&#039;s in 1993 (part II). Also the 1994 CNG sale that was forgotten by the time of their 2019 listing. (It had bounced around by then, including Calgary Coin to JB (Edmonton, d. 2019), from whose estate it came -- curated, if I&#039;m not mistaken, by [USER=86498]@Terence Cheesman[/USER] .)</p><p><br /></p><p>I saved the label of course and photographed it thoroughly first (and it made a couple auction appearances slabbed).</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1447785[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Incidentally, I&#039;ve kept another slabbed because it&#039;s an NGC &quot;error slab&quot;. NGC was slabbing at least 92 Severus Alexander Denarii from the A.K. Collection group lots from Triton XXI (by any chance, [USER=97383]@Al Kowsky[/USER] , was this one of your consignments?) and they clearly put the wrong label in the slab. (NGC #&#039;s 4682251 – 001 through about 92 were all from the same group lot.)</p><p><br /></p><p>The very curious thing is that the coin appears with the correct label on the NGC Lookup website! So they must photograph them before actually sealing the slabs</p><p><br /></p><p>My slab reads <a href="https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/4682251-068/NGCAncients/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/4682251-068/NGCAncients/" rel="nofollow"><b>NGC 4682251-068, graded XF</b></a> . When opening that link, it&#039;s the correct label, but not my coin. It should actually have this label that appears with it correctly here: <a href="https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/4682251-022/NGCAncients/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/4682251-022/NGCAncients/" rel="nofollow"><b>NGC Holder 4682251-022, graded AU (&quot;ex AK Collection&quot;)</b></a>. (NGC may be strict about copyright images so I&#039;m not using any of theirs.)</p><p><br /></p><p>A very interesting coin in it&#039;s own right, here&#039;s CNG&#039;s slabbed photo:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1447794[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Luckily there was an unslabbed photo in one of the old AK Collection Supplement .pdfs from CNG (though low res):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1447796[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>(Their catalogers missed the provenance to the supplement for this and another,&nbsp; noting only &quot;Reportedly AK Collection (NGC tag)&quot; or similar. It actually mattered&nbsp; here because it now at least gets a &quot;reported&quot; provenance to 1970. I was feeling foolishly generous and gave a contact at CNG the extra info so he could add it to the live auction -- mainly so the archive would reflect the full provenance if I didn&#039;t win. I&#039;ve wised up and stopped doing that until after I drop out of bidding, or, whether I bid or not, to keep them from being permanently lost, I often add extra provenance to coins in <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/comments.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/comments.html" rel="nofollow">comments on ACSearch</a> [mine are by &quot;CONSERVATORI&quot;; [USER=77960]@Rich Beale[/USER] , it might be worth re-enabling comments for ROMA for this reason!].)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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