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<p>[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 7560941, member: 105098"]look, I know an acid treated coin when I see it and that edge isn't it. if it was done by someone or the environment, they went way out of their way on it.</p><p>could this have been in the ground at some point though? Yes. but this isn't what we'd see completely.</p><p><br /></p><p>the pictures leave much to be desired. better pictures of obverse, reverse, and closer pictures of the edge, a couple of them from around the coin edge, looking for tampering. Also check the scale, it needs to do hundreths of a gram or even more exact and be calibrated. if it rounds to 10ths or half grams, who knows what the actual weight is. 2g could be 2.4g or 1.6g or something like that.</p><p><br /></p><p>It could be a split planchet before the strike happened. it could be a quarter struck on dime stock which exists for 1974.</p><p><br /></p><p>Not saying it is, but that edge doesn't appear to have the eaten out look of a coin that was corroded away, the copper corrodes faster than the nickel.</p><p><br /></p><p>A quarter on a dime metal stock, I'll save you the math but,</p><p>X = 4.16 grams, the expected weight of a copper-nickel clad dime stock quarter.</p><p><br /></p><p>The weight of the actual coin may deviate up to 0.15 gram from the expected weight. Deviations greater than 0.2 gram in either direction probably mean you’ve got a rolled-thin error or split planchet, instead of a wrong stock error.</p><p><br /></p><p>And the possibility exists, some crafty chemist that really knows his acids shrank down the quarter evenly without eating up the copper core first, I don't know how someone would achieve it though, but I'm skeptical of that by it's appearance in these initial photos. It's the easy answer, but it doesn't mean it's the right answer. also seems wrong in that the copper core is a lot of the weight and it's gone from 5.67g to 2.0g, for a weight this low I'd expect the copper to be completely gone.</p><p><br /></p><p>if it were struck on a cent or a dime planchet, all details couldn't be present, so this leaves a split planchet before the strike, a seriously rolled thin planchet, or a quarter sized planchet punched out from dime sheet.</p><p><br /></p><p>or someone tampering with a quarter with acids or something else to remove the nickel, but not the copper, possibly getting rid of the copper with a corrosive, then plating it to make it look like the copper is there???</p><p><br /></p><p>Even if it was missing both clad layers it should be around 3.67g.</p><p><br /></p><p>Where's I'm at with this info presented on this is either a split planchet before the strike and like 70%+ of the planchet is gone like the top part of a hamburger bun, or someone was really tampering with a quarter and went out of their way on it. to add back the copper edge maybe by plating. Even then the reeded edge shouldn't look like that at all, it should be gone. so they'd need to add that back also.</p><p><br /></p><p>2.0g and the amount of detail on it, it is way too light to be anything else really. And the tampering, while being extreme for someone to have done, is the far more likely conclusion to draw.</p><p>I don't think this happens by any environmental means.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 7560941, member: 105098"]look, I know an acid treated coin when I see it and that edge isn't it. if it was done by someone or the environment, they went way out of their way on it. could this have been in the ground at some point though? Yes. but this isn't what we'd see completely. the pictures leave much to be desired. better pictures of obverse, reverse, and closer pictures of the edge, a couple of them from around the coin edge, looking for tampering. Also check the scale, it needs to do hundreths of a gram or even more exact and be calibrated. if it rounds to 10ths or half grams, who knows what the actual weight is. 2g could be 2.4g or 1.6g or something like that. It could be a split planchet before the strike happened. it could be a quarter struck on dime stock which exists for 1974. Not saying it is, but that edge doesn't appear to have the eaten out look of a coin that was corroded away, the copper corrodes faster than the nickel. A quarter on a dime metal stock, I'll save you the math but, X = 4.16 grams, the expected weight of a copper-nickel clad dime stock quarter. The weight of the actual coin may deviate up to 0.15 gram from the expected weight. Deviations greater than 0.2 gram in either direction probably mean you’ve got a rolled-thin error or split planchet, instead of a wrong stock error. And the possibility exists, some crafty chemist that really knows his acids shrank down the quarter evenly without eating up the copper core first, I don't know how someone would achieve it though, but I'm skeptical of that by it's appearance in these initial photos. It's the easy answer, but it doesn't mean it's the right answer. also seems wrong in that the copper core is a lot of the weight and it's gone from 5.67g to 2.0g, for a weight this low I'd expect the copper to be completely gone. if it were struck on a cent or a dime planchet, all details couldn't be present, so this leaves a split planchet before the strike, a seriously rolled thin planchet, or a quarter sized planchet punched out from dime sheet. or someone tampering with a quarter with acids or something else to remove the nickel, but not the copper, possibly getting rid of the copper with a corrosive, then plating it to make it look like the copper is there??? Even if it was missing both clad layers it should be around 3.67g. Where's I'm at with this info presented on this is either a split planchet before the strike and like 70%+ of the planchet is gone like the top part of a hamburger bun, or someone was really tampering with a quarter and went out of their way on it. to add back the copper edge maybe by plating. Even then the reeded edge shouldn't look like that at all, it should be gone. so they'd need to add that back also. 2.0g and the amount of detail on it, it is way too light to be anything else really. And the tampering, while being extreme for someone to have done, is the far more likely conclusion to draw. I don't think this happens by any environmental means.[/QUOTE]
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