Very thin solid copper1974 quarter - help me out

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Southernman189, May 14, 2021.

  1. Southernman189

    Southernman189 Well-Known Member

    Here is a quarter I have had since 1998. Been curious but no solid answers from my own mind. I'd love your opinions. It is smooth no bumps or bubbles (even though grainy pics show some) weight: 2.0 grams every detail is there just "flat". what do you think? copper core with no clad? 1974 cent weighs 3.11 grams so I know it's not a cent planchet. what's your opinion? Paddy98 wade right in there too. I can take more close up pics if needed
     

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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Acid/chemicals did that most likely.
     
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  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    My thoughts, too!
     
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  5. Southernman189

    Southernman189 Well-Known Member

    I entertained that thought also and thought the "copper core" of quarters have to be a certain weight to maintain the over all weight of the end result of the quarter and the clad coating isn't that thick. I'll let the others play with the thought too. I have for years with this coin.
     
  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Yep.. Harsh Chemical corrosion :yack:
     
  7. Silverpop

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  8. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    look, I know an acid treated coin when I see it and that edge isn't it. if it was done by someone or the environment, they went way out of their way on it.
    could this have been in the ground at some point though? Yes. but this isn't what we'd see completely.

    the pictures leave much to be desired. better pictures of obverse, reverse, and closer pictures of the edge, a couple of them from around the coin edge, looking for tampering. Also check the scale, it needs to do hundreths of a gram or even more exact and be calibrated. if it rounds to 10ths or half grams, who knows what the actual weight is. 2g could be 2.4g or 1.6g or something like that.

    It could be a split planchet before the strike happened. it could be a quarter struck on dime stock which exists for 1974.

    Not saying it is, but that edge doesn't appear to have the eaten out look of a coin that was corroded away, the copper corrodes faster than the nickel.

    A quarter on a dime metal stock, I'll save you the math but,
    X = 4.16 grams, the expected weight of a copper-nickel clad dime stock quarter.

    The weight of the actual coin may deviate up to 0.15 gram from the expected weight. Deviations greater than 0.2 gram in either direction probably mean you’ve got a rolled-thin error or split planchet, instead of a wrong stock error.

    And the possibility exists, some crafty chemist that really knows his acids shrank down the quarter evenly without eating up the copper core first, I don't know how someone would achieve it though, but I'm skeptical of that by it's appearance in these initial photos. It's the easy answer, but it doesn't mean it's the right answer. also seems wrong in that the copper core is a lot of the weight and it's gone from 5.67g to 2.0g, for a weight this low I'd expect the copper to be completely gone.

    if it were struck on a cent or a dime planchet, all details couldn't be present, so this leaves a split planchet before the strike, a seriously rolled thin planchet, or a quarter sized planchet punched out from dime sheet.

    or someone tampering with a quarter with acids or something else to remove the nickel, but not the copper, possibly getting rid of the copper with a corrosive, then plating it to make it look like the copper is there???

    Even if it was missing both clad layers it should be around 3.67g.

    Where's I'm at with this info presented on this is either a split planchet before the strike and like 70%+ of the planchet is gone like the top part of a hamburger bun, or someone was really tampering with a quarter and went out of their way on it. to add back the copper edge maybe by plating. Even then the reeded edge shouldn't look like that at all, it should be gone. so they'd need to add that back also.

    2.0g and the amount of detail on it, it is way too light to be anything else really. And the tampering, while being extreme for someone to have done, is the far more likely conclusion to draw.
    I don't think this happens by any environmental means.
     
  9. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but I agree with others, PMD. Good luck
     
  10. Snowman

    Snowman Senior Member

    Probably in the ground for some time. I've have found some coins that have gotten thin from the dirt being a acidic. Looks like someone cleaned it up good. All in all ...... PMD
     
  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Chemical corrosion
     
  12. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    It looks to me like it was sandblasted.
     
  13. YankeeDime

    YankeeDime non-conformant

    Looks like the stabilized acid quarter I have.
     
  14. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    As to what EXACTLY caused the damage to this quarter, it really doesn't matter.

    With numismatics errors, you must show evidence of why it is a genuine error including how and at what stage(s) the error occurred.

    Nothing in the planchet preparation or the striking process caused what is seen here.

    100% post-Mint damage.
     
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  15. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    I agree with the above. Jim
     
  16. Southernman189

    Southernman189 Well-Known Member

    it is a VERY smooth quarter with no pits or bumps PMD it is labeled until I hear different. Thanks folks
     
  17. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Acid is my guess.
     
  18. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    If the planchet was this thin won’t the strike be much weaker, and many other coins (from the same planchet) would have been minted.
     
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