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<p>[QUOTE="Howard Black, post: 3414848, member: 97119"]A while ago, we bought a $100 bag of the Jim Thorpe dollars from the U.S. Mint. I put them all into 2x2s and wrote some identifying info on each 2x2, but they stayed in the drawer since then -- my health is very poor, I've been in and out of hospitals so much that I've lost count, and pretty much everything has slid to the back burner.</p><p><br /></p><p>The other day I decided it was time to grit my teeth and start listing them on fleabay. I also decided that I should mark them as to "regular" (clockwise from obverse) or "inverted" edge text.</p><p><br /></p><p>Fortunately, I'd put them into half-dollar sized 2x2 holders so that buyers could look in and see the edge text, which enabled me to examine each coin without removing from the 2x2.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the process of doing this, I found one coin with a "mistake" the likes of which I've<i> never</i> seen (either in real life, or in online images).</p><p><br /></p><p>On the edge -- at each of the cardinal directions -- there was a very dramatic gouge. If not for this coin having come straight out of a sealed Mint bag I'd have thought it to be some strange <i>intentional</i> sort of PMD.</p><p><br /></p><p>But it's even <i>stranger</i> than the fact that it happened <i>in</i> the Mint.</p><p><br /></p><p>When I examined it, it became obvious that the damage was inflicted <i>during</i> the minting process. The gouges occurred <i>after</i> the coin was struck, but <i>before</i> the lettering was pressed into the edge.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some of the gouging totally obliterated the area where the edge text <i>would</i> have been stamped. But, in an area where the gouging <i>wasn't</i> deep enough to obliterate the metal, the text was stamped <i>over</i> the gouging (an impossibility if the gouging was inflicted <i>after</i> the edge lettering was applied).</p><p><br /></p><p>I have <i>no</i> idea how this could have happened. I had given some thought to it being feeder finger damage, but the way it's located in those <b><i>four</i></b> locations doesn't seem consistent with that. (Or does it?)</p><p><br /></p><p>One thing that <i>isn't</i> that obvious in the photos is the nature of the gouges, i.e., it looks like each one was made in one <i>very</i> forceful stroke, made in <i>one</i> direction (there is a clear difference between the "entry wound" and the "exit wound," with raised (coin) metal on the exit side).</p><p><br /></p><p>Also, although the cutting extends from the obverse to reverse sides of the edge, it is <i>much</i> deeper in "roughly" the center, leaving two flange-like portions. This is easier to see with the naked eye, but it <i>is</i> visible in the photos. I put "roughly" in scare-quotes because it's <i>not</i> a case of the middle layer of the sandwich behaving differently from the outer layers. This is evident because the deeper parts of the cuts are <i>not</i> precisely and evenly restricted to the coin's core layer.</p><p><br /></p><p>I hope to be able to post some better photos shortly, but the ones attached to this post are clear enough to confirm the above.</p><p><br /></p><p>If anyone has any clue as to what happened to this coin, or what effect it might have on the value, <i>please</i> don't hesitate to reply.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]906284[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]906286[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]906289[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Howard Black, post: 3414848, member: 97119"]A while ago, we bought a $100 bag of the Jim Thorpe dollars from the U.S. Mint. I put them all into 2x2s and wrote some identifying info on each 2x2, but they stayed in the drawer since then -- my health is very poor, I've been in and out of hospitals so much that I've lost count, and pretty much everything has slid to the back burner. The other day I decided it was time to grit my teeth and start listing them on fleabay. I also decided that I should mark them as to "regular" (clockwise from obverse) or "inverted" edge text. Fortunately, I'd put them into half-dollar sized 2x2 holders so that buyers could look in and see the edge text, which enabled me to examine each coin without removing from the 2x2. In the process of doing this, I found one coin with a "mistake" the likes of which I've[I] never[/I] seen (either in real life, or in online images). On the edge -- at each of the cardinal directions -- there was a very dramatic gouge. If not for this coin having come straight out of a sealed Mint bag I'd have thought it to be some strange [I]intentional[/I] sort of PMD. But it's even [I]stranger[/I] than the fact that it happened [I]in[/I] the Mint. When I examined it, it became obvious that the damage was inflicted [I]during[/I] the minting process. The gouges occurred [I]after[/I] the coin was struck, but [I]before[/I] the lettering was pressed into the edge. Some of the gouging totally obliterated the area where the edge text [I]would[/I] have been stamped. But, in an area where the gouging [I]wasn't[/I] deep enough to obliterate the metal, the text was stamped [I]over[/I] the gouging (an impossibility if the gouging was inflicted [I]after[/I] the edge lettering was applied). I have [I]no[/I] idea how this could have happened. I had given some thought to it being feeder finger damage, but the way it's located in those [B][I]four[/I][/B] locations doesn't seem consistent with that. (Or does it?) One thing that [I]isn't[/I] that obvious in the photos is the nature of the gouges, i.e., it looks like each one was made in one [I]very[/I] forceful stroke, made in [I]one[/I] direction (there is a clear difference between the "entry wound" and the "exit wound," with raised (coin) metal on the exit side). Also, although the cutting extends from the obverse to reverse sides of the edge, it is [I]much[/I] deeper in "roughly" the center, leaving two flange-like portions. This is easier to see with the naked eye, but it [I]is[/I] visible in the photos. I put "roughly" in scare-quotes because it's [I]not[/I] a case of the middle layer of the sandwich behaving differently from the outer layers. This is evident because the deeper parts of the cuts are [I]not[/I] precisely and evenly restricted to the coin's core layer. I hope to be able to post some better photos shortly, but the ones attached to this post are clear enough to confirm the above. If anyone has any clue as to what happened to this coin, or what effect it might have on the value, [I]please[/I] don't hesitate to reply. [ATTACH=full]906284[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]906286[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]906289[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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