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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 4994650, member: 112&quot;]Based on that statement it appears kind of obvious that you think the coin should have been graded higher. And apparently some others are of a similar mind. </p><p><br /></p><p>And what you&#039;re wanting to know is - do members of the forum think that is true or not ?&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>A fair question, and I understand why you&#039;re asking. But to be honest it would be easier to answer the question if you&#039;d first tell us what the grade is. In the meantime, let&#039;s examine the idea and see if we can figure out why the grade might be lower than you think it should be.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, the coin is really clean, but it does have a few, shall we say imperfections. You mentioned this for example -</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>OK, I can&#039;t really tell if the lines are raised or nor based on the pic but I&#039;m willing to take your word for it. Even so, on coins like this, meaning Proofs, things like that matter and can affect the grade, and more so than they would on business strikes. So that&#039;s one small item. In addition there are some faint lines on the cheek immediately behind the nose. They are faint but they are there.</p><p><br /></p><p>In addition to that you have what I can only call a re-punched date, visible in the 3 and the 9. That matters too in regard to grade as Proofs should not have re-punched dates. Then there is a line on the obv, and I won&#039;t call it a scratch or hairline as I don&#039;t know for sure, but there is a line, from about 7 o&#039;clock up to the V. Then there is considerable roughness in the lower right quadrant of the obv fields - and that matters in regard to grade. Lastly, on the obv, you have the bright shiny parts on the ear and some of the hair. This indicates that at some point the coin has come into contact with something and it has rubbed off the toning there. And that matters.</p><p><br /></p><p>On the rev there is a small vertical line to the left of the crown and a smaller on at an angle. And 2 small contact marks to the right of the base of the crown. And of course the somewhat unsightly toning spots you&#039;ve mentioned.</p><p><br /></p><p>All in all, these are the things that I see that could affect the grade of a Proof in a negative manner. On a business strike these things would have less to much less effect on the grade, but not so on a Proof.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now I don&#039;t know what you think the coin should grade, and I don&#039;t know what the TPG graded the coin. The only things I do know are those I have mentioned above and they might well be why the coin got a lower grade than you think it deserves.</p><p><br /></p><p>And since you&#039;ve already asked, if it were me, I&#039;d call it a PF64 based on the pics. If I could see it in hand, that might change one direction or the other, but not much.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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