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<p>[QUOTE="Pandacollector, post: 972502, member: 26583"]Here is a quick alert about some presumably fake 2010 gold 1/10 oz. Pandas. This is the item <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D280547148993%26ru%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fshop.ebay.com%253A80%252Fi.html%253F_adv%253D1%2526_nkw%253D280547148993%2526_in_kw%253D1%2526_ex_kw%253D%2526_sacat%253DSee-All-Categories%2526_okw%253D280547148993%2526_oexkw%253D%2526_adv%253D1%2526_udlo%253D%2526_udhi%253D%2526_ftrt%253D901%2526_ftrv%253D1%2526_sabdlo%253D%2526_sabdhi%253D%2526_samilow%253D%2526_samihi%253D%2526_sadis%253D200%2526_fpos%253DZip%252Bcode%2526_fsct%253D%2526LH_SALE_CURRENCY%253D0%2526_sop%253D1%2526_dmd%253D1%2526_ipg%253D50%2526_fvi%253D1%26_rdc%3D1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D280547148993%26ru%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fshop.ebay.com%253A80%252Fi.html%253F_adv%253D1%2526_nkw%253D280547148993%2526_in_kw%253D1%2526_ex_kw%253D%2526_sacat%253DSee-All-Categories%2526_okw%253D280547148993%2526_oexkw%253D%2526_adv%253D1%2526_udlo%253D%2526_udhi%253D%2526_ftrt%253D901%2526_ftrv%253D1%2526_sabdlo%253D%2526_sabdhi%253D%2526_samilow%253D%2526_samihi%253D%2526_sadis%253D200%2526_fpos%253DZip%252Bcode%2526_fsct%253D%2526LH_SALE_CURRENCY%253D0%2526_sop%253D1%2526_dmd%253D1%2526_ipg%253D50%2526_fvi%253D1%26_rdc%3D1" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280547148993&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%3A80%2Fi.html%3F_adv%3D1%26_nkw%3D280547148993%26_in_kw%3D1%26_ex_kw%3D%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_okw%3D280547148993%26_oexkw%3D%26_adv%3D1%26_udlo%3D%26_udhi%3D%26_ftrt%3D901%26_ftrv%3D1%26_sabdlo%3D%26_sabdhi%3D%26_samilow%3D%26_samihi%3D%26_sadis%3D200%26_fpos%3DZip%2Bcode%26_fsct%3D%26LH_SALE_CURRENCY%3D0%26_sop%3D1%26_dmd%3D1%26_ipg%3D50%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I have no doubt that the photos are of counterfeit coins. Look at the rounded edges of the pouches. In the experience of all the China Mint personnel and Panda dealers I have spoken to, genuine gold Pandas never come in pouches with sealed rounded corners. This is because they are cut and sealed into rectangular sheets of 10 coins with straight edges at the Mint. The only way to get a round corner — as in the item's photo — is to seal the coin individually. That is not how the Chinese Mint works. </p><p><br /></p><p>If these are like the others I've seen there are other details that are wrong with the coins, but the somewhat blurry photos hide those.</p><p><br /></p><p>My June 22 entry about counterfeit Pandas (<a href="http://www.pandacollector.com/rogue.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pandacollector.com/rogue.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pandacollector.com/rogue.html</a>) focuses on this exact topic and includes photos that compare fake to real coins. Hope that helps.</p><p>Best wishes,</p><p>Peter Anthony</p><p><a href="http://www.pandacollector.com/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pandacollector.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pandacollector.com/</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Pandacollector, post: 972502, member: 26583"]Here is a quick alert about some presumably fake 2010 gold 1/10 oz. Pandas. This is the item [URL="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D280547148993%26ru%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fshop.ebay.com%253A80%252Fi.html%253F_adv%253D1%2526_nkw%253D280547148993%2526_in_kw%253D1%2526_ex_kw%253D%2526_sacat%253DSee-All-Categories%2526_okw%253D280547148993%2526_oexkw%253D%2526_adv%253D1%2526_udlo%253D%2526_udhi%253D%2526_ftrt%253D901%2526_ftrv%253D1%2526_sabdlo%253D%2526_sabdhi%253D%2526_samilow%253D%2526_samihi%253D%2526_sadis%253D200%2526_fpos%253DZip%252Bcode%2526_fsct%253D%2526LH_SALE_CURRENCY%253D0%2526_sop%253D1%2526_dmd%253D1%2526_ipg%253D50%2526_fvi%253D1%26_rdc%3D1"]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280547148993&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%3A80%2Fi.html%3F_adv%3D1%26_nkw%3D280547148993%26_in_kw%3D1%26_ex_kw%3D%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_okw%3D280547148993%26_oexkw%3D%26_adv%3D1%26_udlo%3D%26_udhi%3D%26_ftrt%3D901%26_ftrv%3D1%26_sabdlo%3D%26_sabdhi%3D%26_samilow%3D%26_samihi%3D%26_sadis%3D200%26_fpos%3DZip%2Bcode%26_fsct%3D%26LH_SALE_CURRENCY%3D0%26_sop%3D1%26_dmd%3D1%26_ipg%3D50%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1[/URL] I have no doubt that the photos are of counterfeit coins. Look at the rounded edges of the pouches. In the experience of all the China Mint personnel and Panda dealers I have spoken to, genuine gold Pandas never come in pouches with sealed rounded corners. This is because they are cut and sealed into rectangular sheets of 10 coins with straight edges at the Mint. The only way to get a round corner — as in the item's photo — is to seal the coin individually. That is not how the Chinese Mint works. If these are like the others I've seen there are other details that are wrong with the coins, but the somewhat blurry photos hide those. My June 22 entry about counterfeit Pandas ([URL]http://www.pandacollector.com/rogue.html[/URL]) focuses on this exact topic and includes photos that compare fake to real coins. Hope that helps. Best wishes, Peter Anthony [URL]http://www.pandacollector.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]
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