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<p>[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 970810, member: 6370"]Just because he is disagreeing with you about the surety of this being a scam does not in any way mean he is convinced the coins are real and in fact he said he probably agrees that there may be something fishy going on, he is simply saying there is not solid proof, just circumstantial aspects of this seller that might raise red flags to any cautious buyer. I have not seen anything from him where he said anything even close, or even insinuated, that he was 'convinced they are real'.</p><p><br /></p><p>If I had any advice to any user on eBay it would be...yes...you are on your own. Protect yourself and don't worry about others. If it looks even CLOSE to fishy, don't buy it. I used to post warnings and try to get postings pulled and scan that site all the time. I can tell you eBay DOES pull scammers if they can with reasonable protection from backlash from the seller. But more than likely you are just joe blow contacting them, they don't know you, they don't know what you know, they are not coin experts (or experts for all the other collectables people sell there from just pictures) so don't expect them to treat your missive as marching orders just because you inform them you think its a scam. It might get pulled, it might not...and believe it or not I have gotten plenty pulled until I realized life is short and eBay has always been buyer beware and watch your own butt because there is never going to be a reasonable expectation that others are watching it for you. I like eBay, Its a big market place selling a huge variety of things but eBay cannot catch it all and to be honest...I don't want some clerk at eBay who knows nothing about coins trying to make judgment calls about something they know nothing about or simply taking Joe Blows word for it. Nor do I want them paying a thousand experts to verify everything being sold there as I want the fees and hassles to stay as low as possible. People will rail on about the scammers and why eBay doesn't catch them all, then they will rail about fees going up.</p><p><br /></p><p>You have reasonable protection and assurances you will get your money back through the electronic payment. That's all I think should be given. You buy, you get it, its not right, send it back and get your money back. In a case like this, buyer be very wary, use common sense...look for the red flags that are, as pointed out, all over this seller and his wares. IMO, in this case, best case is the seller cant make a sell and moves on.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 970810, member: 6370"]Just because he is disagreeing with you about the surety of this being a scam does not in any way mean he is convinced the coins are real and in fact he said he probably agrees that there may be something fishy going on, he is simply saying there is not solid proof, just circumstantial aspects of this seller that might raise red flags to any cautious buyer. I have not seen anything from him where he said anything even close, or even insinuated, that he was 'convinced they are real'. If I had any advice to any user on eBay it would be...yes...you are on your own. Protect yourself and don't worry about others. If it looks even CLOSE to fishy, don't buy it. I used to post warnings and try to get postings pulled and scan that site all the time. I can tell you eBay DOES pull scammers if they can with reasonable protection from backlash from the seller. But more than likely you are just joe blow contacting them, they don't know you, they don't know what you know, they are not coin experts (or experts for all the other collectables people sell there from just pictures) so don't expect them to treat your missive as marching orders just because you inform them you think its a scam. It might get pulled, it might not...and believe it or not I have gotten plenty pulled until I realized life is short and eBay has always been buyer beware and watch your own butt because there is never going to be a reasonable expectation that others are watching it for you. I like eBay, Its a big market place selling a huge variety of things but eBay cannot catch it all and to be honest...I don't want some clerk at eBay who knows nothing about coins trying to make judgment calls about something they know nothing about or simply taking Joe Blows word for it. Nor do I want them paying a thousand experts to verify everything being sold there as I want the fees and hassles to stay as low as possible. People will rail on about the scammers and why eBay doesn't catch them all, then they will rail about fees going up. You have reasonable protection and assurances you will get your money back through the electronic payment. That's all I think should be given. You buy, you get it, its not right, send it back and get your money back. In a case like this, buyer be very wary, use common sense...look for the red flags that are, as pointed out, all over this seller and his wares. IMO, in this case, best case is the seller cant make a sell and moves on.[/QUOTE]
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