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<p>[QUOTE="Pandacollector, post: 970360, member: 26583"]So here's the deal as I see it: aldergold included photos of the numbered COA (has to be 58 or under) and the original box and a photo of the Temple of Heaven side (it's the obverse) to demonstrate his possession of this very rare coin. Mr. Cheetah has shown none of those, perhaps because the numbers would give away that he doesn't have the three coins he claims to have – or maybe because Mr. Rim's Cents forgot to send those to him. I have stated that in my opinion, based on a lot of experience with Panda coins and sellers, cheetah's a cheater. It was offered here for anyone who may have been tempted to spend a lot of money on what appeared to be a bargain but may not really be one. People can take that information and buy all three of his "coins" if they want, but at least they have some information on which to make a reasoned choice. </p><p><br /></p><p>Seller alderwood can prove his ownership of the coin with a photo of the reeding on the side of the coin. The serial numbers for this series are stamped there. It needs to match the COA. That will eliminate anyone else's claim that they are the actual owner of this particular gold coin and that they granted permission to others to use it. Mr. Rim's Cents apparently hypothetical claim of possession would, I believe, be severely weakened if he couldn't provide photos of the matching serial numbers.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, the point of this discussion is to alert collectors to my concerns about what I'm fairly sure is a scam, not prosecute a criminal case or argue the legal code. I hope that's been accomplished.</p><p><br /></p><p>Oh yes, I'm not in the least bit troubled by missing out on the $25,000 item. If I collected the Kilo gold Panda series – which I don't – I would buy Mr. Aldergold's and sleep well in the belief that he is a legitimate seller. </p><p><br /></p><p>Best wishes and happy collecting to all,</p><p>Peter Anthony</p><p><a href="http://www.pandacollector.com" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pandacollector.com" rel="nofollow">www.pandacollector.com</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Pandacollector, post: 970360, member: 26583"]So here's the deal as I see it: aldergold included photos of the numbered COA (has to be 58 or under) and the original box and a photo of the Temple of Heaven side (it's the obverse) to demonstrate his possession of this very rare coin. Mr. Cheetah has shown none of those, perhaps because the numbers would give away that he doesn't have the three coins he claims to have – or maybe because Mr. Rim's Cents forgot to send those to him. I have stated that in my opinion, based on a lot of experience with Panda coins and sellers, cheetah's a cheater. It was offered here for anyone who may have been tempted to spend a lot of money on what appeared to be a bargain but may not really be one. People can take that information and buy all three of his "coins" if they want, but at least they have some information on which to make a reasoned choice. Seller alderwood can prove his ownership of the coin with a photo of the reeding on the side of the coin. The serial numbers for this series are stamped there. It needs to match the COA. That will eliminate anyone else's claim that they are the actual owner of this particular gold coin and that they granted permission to others to use it. Mr. Rim's Cents apparently hypothetical claim of possession would, I believe, be severely weakened if he couldn't provide photos of the matching serial numbers. Anyway, the point of this discussion is to alert collectors to my concerns about what I'm fairly sure is a scam, not prosecute a criminal case or argue the legal code. I hope that's been accomplished. Oh yes, I'm not in the least bit troubled by missing out on the $25,000 item. If I collected the Kilo gold Panda series – which I don't – I would buy Mr. Aldergold's and sleep well in the belief that he is a legitimate seller. Best wishes and happy collecting to all, Peter Anthony [url]www.pandacollector.com[/url][/QUOTE]
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