....Vertot's Roman Republic, Vol. 1...1740 edition

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  1. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..I haven't bought any coins yet this year, but i have bought a couple of books related to coins as such..this came in today. this will tie in again my antique library and my coins. a 5th edition copy of Vertot's Revolutions in Government of the Roman Republic (boy, what a title:p) translated to the English of the day..this is the oldest book by far so far:)..and to keep this inna coin kinda way, i'll post a quinarius minted during the Social Wars of the Republic 90/89BC..:D

    POST YOUR BOOKS, COINS & COMMENTS PEEPS!:D Vertots 003.JPG Vertots 002.JPG Vertots Roman republic de revolutions 1740 001.JPG quinarius Cato the Elder 89 bc 001.JPG quinarius Cato the Elder 89 bc 002.JPG quinarius M. Cato moneyer,Ob. Apollo bust right, r. Victory seated right 89BC
     

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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    M. PORCIUS CATO.jpg
    M. PORCIUS CATO; GENS PORCIA
    AR Quinarius
    OBVERSE: M • CATO • PRO • PR, wreathed head of Liber right
    REVERSE: Victory seated right, holding palm branch over her left shoulder and patera in her right hand, VICTRIX in ex
    Utica, Africa 47-46 BC
    1.4 g, 13 mm
    Cr462/2, Porcia 11
     
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  4. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    How cool is that!! What a great book!
     
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  5. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    Nice!
    I bought good old Hill some years ago on ebay, but the book is in terrible condition. G/VG, I'd say. It's unusable, and just a nice collectible. Have you guys had any experience with repairing old books?

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  6. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..hmm...not me..but kool book tho. :)
     
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  7. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    I just found out that we have a father and daughter running a book binder store where they restore old books right here in Stavanger. Probably costs an arm and a leg, but I'll check it out none the less.
    Your book is a real antiquity, though. Looks like a great buy. Books are nice collectibles. Just like coins.
     
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  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Cool, @ominus1 ! Very good book...

    You would shun my reading habits... I underline, mark, comment, dog-ear, highlight, throw away the useless dust covers that get in the way, and even eat when I read. I am terrible; I am the epitome of the Book People. However, being dyslexic, it is the way I absorb information. You do not want me to lend you a book... :D I totally consume them.

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    Social War, cool choice, Greg!

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    RR AR Quinarius
    Q Titius 90 BCE - Winged Victory and Pegasos

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    RR AR Quinarius
    M Porcius Cato 89 BCE - Young Bacchus and Seated Victory

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    RR AR Denarius
    Q Titius 90 BCE - Winged Victory and Pegasus


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    Marsic Confederation
    AR Denarius
    Bovianum(?) mint, 89 BCE.
    (Bovianum was the Capital of the original Samnite Confederation since 9th C. BCE)
    3.93g, 20mm, 3h
    Obv: Laureate head of Italia left, VITELIV = ITALIA in Oscan script
    Rev: Soldier standing facing, head right, foot on uncertain object, holding inverted spear and sword, recumbent bull to right facing; retrograde B in exergue.
    Ref: Campana 122 (same dies); HN Italy 407
    Ex: Eucharius Collection
     
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  9. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    Books and qunarii. I like this thread. And I’m waiting for a shipment of both:




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    I was searching for a book about Sasanid coins earlier, and got a laugh too: The «customers who bought this book also buys» - suggestion was this; a book about trauma treatment. I really didn’t know this about Sasanid coins. Perhaps I should get rid of the few that I have before I lose my mind.

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  10. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    My copy of Hill, together with some of the plates. I even have some of the coins [edited to add: I mean types of coins] shown on them.

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  11. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

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  12. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    I didn't mean I have the actual coins, just that I have some of the same types of coins! I suspect the plates came from coins in the British Museum.
     
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  13. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Ah, ok. Either way, still pretty cool. Thanks for sharing :)
     
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  14. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

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  15. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    From what I understand, Hill is a classic and an important building block for modern numismatic literature. I think that’s why Donna and me chose to buy it.

    And it’s Svein, btw. Very nice to meet you all.
     
  16. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    Exactly!
     
  17. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    That book looks great! Much older than any book I own!

    You posted a page showing the fifth edition, “English’d by Mr. Ozell, from the Original newly reprinted at Paris, with Amendments and Additions by the Author himself, …”

    I have never seen the word “English’d” before.

    I found the second edition, 1721, viewable online. Print on demand copies can be had for $16 per volume, if you are like me and afraid of reading old brittle originals.

    Vol 1: https://books.google.com/books?id=q...dir=0&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

    Vol 2: https://books.google.com/books?id=y...dir=0&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false
     
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  18. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..hehe..me neither Ed..this one will be an adventure into old English fpellings...thanks for the info. :)
     
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  19. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    The oldest complete books/publications I own are these two, a couple of Racine plays published in 1696 and 1698 respectively. Unfortunately, they have nothing to do with coins!

    2 Racine tragedies, covers, 1696 & 1698 -- Athalie & Mithridate.jpg

    I do own a single page from an incunabula -- an illustrated page from Hartmann Schedel's Weltchronik, published in 1493. better known as the Nuremberg Chronicle -- but that doesn't really count!
     
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  20. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    The oldest book about coins I have is the first edition of John Pinkerton's Essay on Medals, published in London in 1784. (Much of the book deals with ancient coins, which it refers to throughout as "medals." What we would call ancient medals -- i.e., not intended as regularly circulating coins -- the book calls "medallions.")

    Here's the title page:

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    I find this book particularly interesting, even though it has no illustrations, because it includes the earliest extensive price guide for Roman coins I've ever seen. Here are some pages from it. (These copies are actually from the third edition, published in 1808, which I also own. I didn't want to damage the binding of the first edition by placing it face-down on a scanner. As far as I can tell, the author didn't change the prices between 1784 and 1808!)

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  21. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    Great looking book, @ominus1, love the binding and the aged paper.
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    Many books are available, and searchable on archive.org:
    Vernot V1, Vernot V2, Hill, Pinkerton, De Racine Athalie, De Racine Mithridate, along with one of my favorites Babelon.

    But that doesn't stop me from enjoying paper editions too:
    Babelon Spine.jpg

    I'll add a coin to keep it CT : an AR denarius of the Younger Cato:
    MPorciusCato Denarius.jpg Roman Republic 47-46 BC
    M. Porcius Cato Uticensis, African mint (Utica)
    Obv: draped female bust right (possibly roma), with hair tied, M CATO PRO PR before, border of dots
    Rev: Victory seated right, holding patera in right hand and palm branch in left hand; border of dots, VICTRIX in exergue
    Ref: Crawford 462/1c; RSC Porcia 9; BMC Africa 15
     
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