Verdigris on old graded copper

If you found a Fugio cent that was otherwise very nice for the grade, but it had a verdigris spot, would it be a deal breaker? It's in a TPG holder.

 

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The question is far too general. Ignore the holder, other than you know it's genuine, pay accordingly. The verdigris will somewhat drop the price on any coin in my experience...but on a super rare coin, maybe not very much. Eye appeal is also important.

Personally, if I wanted the coin bad enough, it would depend on the type/severity of the verdigris and whether any conservation had been performed on it prior to slabbing. Why not post some pictures? You'll get more concise answers.

 

"Deal breaker" all depends on the grade and the price.

 

This would help if you could provide Pics.

 

Deal breaker friend in many things. The coin and the price, the grade since it’s in a slab, where and how big is the spot in question. You can always send to the TPG for restoration and regrade. A photo would be nice.

 

It's on Great Collections this week. 1787 Fugio Cent STATES UNITED, 4 Cinquefoils PCGS XF-45 (Item 1638520) | GreatCollections Coin Auctions

 

On this particular coin, the verdigris wouldn't dissuade me from buying it. However, like others have said, I'd want to buy the coin at a bit of a discount relative to what I'd pay for the same coin if it didn't have any verdigris.

 

Thats true. Collecting nut is right in that it could be conserved. That cost would have to be considered as well. Thanks for the input. Stacks has a bunch of them on the 19th.

 

Early stage, stable verdigris, so tiny, not of a concern considering the age.

 

Coin seems to be in very good condition.
is the verdigris left center on the obverse?

 

It is under the 1st 7 on the obverse.

 

Aha now I see it thank you. I believe that could be conserved. (Verdicare?)
It's a nice looking Fugio. We will all be pushing up daisies before that verdigris spreads very far.

 

Thanks everyone. You guys helped me make up my mind. Great strike and color. Centered, on a really nice planchet. High end for the grade. I do believe the green spot would keep it from receiving a CAC sticker though. Conservation would fix that.

 

If the price was low enough conservative efforts by a TPG would be worth it.

 

Hmm, I saw that but to me the bigger problem is the white goo at 2:30 on the edge of the sundial, and a smaller bit of it at the center. Still not a major issue though.

 

I saw that. I thought maybe that was left over from some old conservation. BadThad, any ideas?

 

It looks like what happened when I used acetone on what I think was PVC damage. Before left, after right. I gave up trying this stuff on my own after that. Somebody with more experience should comment on the white stuff on the fugio.

 

I saw it too, looks like grease or something organic in nature. This is what happens when people don't solvent rinse their coins before submission. Every coin I've ever submitted has been well rinsed to make sure my slabbed coins don't have something so easily correctable hanging around.

 

Acetone and other organic-based solvents will not remove verdigris. You simply dehydrated the verdigris, exactly what you want to do if you're not removing it. The verdigris looks light to me, it would be easily conserved with VC from what I see.

 

If I get it, it will need to be conserved. A small price to pay for such a nice coin. Easier to sell down the road.