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Message:: [QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2335469, member: 19463"][ATTACH=full]474025[/ATTACH] Seriously, neither of us can call our Zeno 'minimal' with regards to wear with those flat noses and other details.  Still they are nicer than average for these where strike means more than wear.  Grade letters are a joke on ancients and medievals (which this is being way too late to be 'ancient').  I'd call your coin an excellent old coin well worth having but it will not appeal to the condition centered crowd.  <a href="http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=grosso+zeno&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&currency=usd&thesaurus=1&order=0&company=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=grosso+zeno&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&currency=usd&thesaurus=1&order=0&company=" rel="nofollow">http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=grosso+zeno&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&currency=usd&thesaurus=1&order=0&company=</a>There are nicer ones but there are worse in the above list.  My coin is there but I bought it a year after that sale for 1/3 less than this sale records.  Grading ancients is largely a matter of opinion as is pricing.[/QUOTE]