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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;zumbly, post: 5184588, member: 57495&quot;]I agree with this, but would just qualify by saying you can certainly damage a coin if you scratch it up badly during the cleaning process.&nbsp; Though the coin below was from an &quot;uncleaned&quot; lot, it came &quot;cleaned&quot; to its current state.&nbsp; I don&#039;t have a problem owning it, though.&nbsp; Damaged coins need some love too!</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1213141[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>While I don&#039;t personally consider a coin stripped of its patina ruined - ruined for me would be a tooled coin - I think it&#039;s a valid sentiment for some to feel that a coin stripped of its patina has been ruined <i>for them</i>.&nbsp; I do however believe this hobby has enough coins to accommodate the fact that some collectors, including myself, will prefer a coin after it has acquired through the process of 2000 years of metal oxidation an unoriginal coloured layer, some dirt, and assorted surface adhesions, whereas some others will like a coin with a colour closer to when it was first struck and used 2000 years ago.&nbsp; I wasn&#039;t the one who &quot;conserved&quot; the coin below, and though it came in an unpictured group lot, I don&#039;t have a problem keeping it either (so no, [USER=83845]@Curtisimo[/USER], you can&#039;t have it. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />).&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1213144[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding the OP Caligula, without commenting on the asking price, I&#039;ll say that, as it stands, I prefer the &quot;after&quot; obverse but the &quot;before&quot; reverse.&nbsp; On the other hand, I 100% agree with this:[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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