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<p>[QUOTE="chrisild, post: 573469, member: 39"]Yes, you can buy Vatican euro coins directly from the Numismatic Office (UFN), provided you are a registered customer. In that case you will get an order form via postal mail each time the Vatican issues new coins. Fill it out and return it, and the coins will come. May take quite a while, but as far as I can tell, they are reliable.</p><p><br /></p><p>They used to sell some coins and sets locally, in Rome, to anybody who showed up and was willing to wait in a long line. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> But that got quite chaotic, so now the direct sale is only for customers who received an order form. See <a href="http://www.vaticanstate.va/EN/Services/Philatelic_and_Numismatic_Office/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.vaticanstate.va/EN/Services/Philatelic_and_Numismatic_Office/" rel="nofollow">http://www.vaticanstate.va/EN/Services/Philatelic_and_Numismatic_Office/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>And no, currently none of the VA coins can be had at face. That may change in the future, due to a recent Council Conclusion (see below), but don't hold your breath ...</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cms_data/docs/pressdata/en/ecofin/105990.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cms_data/docs/pressdata/en/ecofin/105990.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cms_data/docs/pressdata/en/ecofin/105990.pdf</a> (see page 1)</p><p><a href="http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cms_data/docs/pressdata/en/ecofin/106007.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cms_data/docs/pressdata/en/ecofin/106007.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cms_data/docs/pressdata/en/ecofin/106007.pdf</a> (see page 18)</p><p><br /></p><p>"Euro coins intended for circulation should be put into circulation at face value. This does not exclude that a minor proportion of issued euro coins is sold at a higher price, if justified by reasons such as special quality or packaging. This rule should apply as from 1 January 2010 for the countries having Monetary Agreements with the European Community. The Commission is invited to review the functioning of the existing Monetary Agreements and to consider possible increases in the ceilings for coin issuance."</p><p><br /></p><p>Problem is, everybody knows that in a currency union you don't actually need "local" coins for the "local" cash supply. Just as you could use Italian lira cash in VA before the euro cash came, you can use circulation coins from any of the 19 euro countries there. So apart from collectors, who cares? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Christian[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="chrisild, post: 573469, member: 39"]Yes, you can buy Vatican euro coins directly from the Numismatic Office (UFN), provided you are a registered customer. In that case you will get an order form via postal mail each time the Vatican issues new coins. Fill it out and return it, and the coins will come. May take quite a while, but as far as I can tell, they are reliable. They used to sell some coins and sets locally, in Rome, to anybody who showed up and was willing to wait in a long line. :) But that got quite chaotic, so now the direct sale is only for customers who received an order form. See [url]http://www.vaticanstate.va/EN/Services/Philatelic_and_Numismatic_Office/[/url] And no, currently none of the VA coins can be had at face. That may change in the future, due to a recent Council Conclusion (see below), but don't hold your breath ... [url]http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cms_data/docs/pressdata/en/ecofin/105990.pdf[/url] (see page 1) [url]http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cms_data/docs/pressdata/en/ecofin/106007.pdf[/url] (see page 18) "Euro coins intended for circulation should be put into circulation at face value. This does not exclude that a minor proportion of issued euro coins is sold at a higher price, if justified by reasons such as special quality or packaging. This rule should apply as from 1 January 2010 for the countries having Monetary Agreements with the European Community. The Commission is invited to review the functioning of the existing Monetary Agreements and to consider possible increases in the ceilings for coin issuance." Problem is, everybody knows that in a currency union you don't actually need "local" coins for the "local" cash supply. Just as you could use Italian lira cash in VA before the euro cash came, you can use circulation coins from any of the 19 euro countries there. So apart from collectors, who cares? :p Christian[/QUOTE]
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