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<p>[QUOTE="Finn235, post: 8311617, member: 98035"]One of my first obsessions in Roman coins was the tiny and oh-so-common cross type AE4s. Not only because of the vague possibility of finding a Galla Placidia or a Hilderic, but also for the simplicity of the design and how it marked the transformation of Rome from an old empire that now had a lot of Christians to an explicitly Christian empire. I ended up parting with most of my ho-hum examples to make room for other things, but to this day I still keep my eyes out for a particularly nice or interesting specimen.</p><p><br /></p><p>I found this in a lot of Vandal-period AE4s</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1471287[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>At first glance I thought it was just a cross potent with some damage, but on closer inspection I recognized that all arms had the same bend - this wasn't a cross at all but a left-facing swastika (sauwastika <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> )</p><p><br /></p><p>And since they say "one specimen does not a variety make"</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1471288[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>I have never seen anything like these before, save for some south Indian imitations, but the style, size, and thickness of these indicate Vandal manufacture, not Indian.</p><p><br /></p><p>I checked the usual references (Wroth and a few more recent hoard analyses I found online) and couldn't find any more swastikas on Vandal (or any other Germanic) coin, although the symbol certainly would have been one they were comfortable with:</p><p><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika_(Germanic_Iron_Age)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika_(Germanic_Iron_Age)" rel="nofollow">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika_(Germanic_Iron_Age)</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Has anyone else spotted anything similar?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Finn235, post: 8311617, member: 98035"]One of my first obsessions in Roman coins was the tiny and oh-so-common cross type AE4s. Not only because of the vague possibility of finding a Galla Placidia or a Hilderic, but also for the simplicity of the design and how it marked the transformation of Rome from an old empire that now had a lot of Christians to an explicitly Christian empire. I ended up parting with most of my ho-hum examples to make room for other things, but to this day I still keep my eyes out for a particularly nice or interesting specimen. I found this in a lot of Vandal-period AE4s [ATTACH=full]1471287[/ATTACH] At first glance I thought it was just a cross potent with some damage, but on closer inspection I recognized that all arms had the same bend - this wasn't a cross at all but a left-facing swastika (sauwastika ;) ) And since they say "one specimen does not a variety make" [ATTACH=full]1471288[/ATTACH] I have never seen anything like these before, save for some south Indian imitations, but the style, size, and thickness of these indicate Vandal manufacture, not Indian. I checked the usual references (Wroth and a few more recent hoard analyses I found online) and couldn't find any more swastikas on Vandal (or any other Germanic) coin, although the symbol certainly would have been one they were comfortable with: [URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika_(Germanic_Iron_Age)[/URL] Has anyone else spotted anything similar?[/QUOTE]
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