Value Please? Roman Coin

I do not collect ancient coins but this came with a collection of other coins and I thought the grade looked good. Any help appreciated.

 

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That's a nice coin and they come in several different varieties, depending on the type of crowns worn by the figures on the obverse and the placement and type of the wreath and palm on the reverse. I'm not sure whether these varieties carry much of a premium compared to the most common types. Yours is nicer than my example, for which I paid $76:

 

Hey @marbury518 can we get a rim shot of the coin?

 

Ours looks to be the same issue, with yours better centered. I gave about $220-230 for this one last year, from VCoins dealer Incitatus Coins. Yours, if genuine, is probably to be valued in that ballpark.

Your coin's flan is almost perfectly round and the details of your coin look a bit soapy to me, which is why Aidan probably wanted to see the coin's edge to check for a casting seam. But I've only once weighed in on authenticity by photo alone and was wrong, so I will not make any claims here. So much depends on whether you can trust your seller.

Yours is really well centered--a trait difficult to find on these issues. See https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/impossible.html

 

More details on this issue:

 

Need weight and measurements as well. I could very well be way off base, but something about the obverse looks wrong. But since there is such a variety, perhaps I just haven't seen one like yours.

 

I think the style is right for the coin; the coin's surface is what I'm responding to. Perhaps it's just honest wear.

 

I think it's authentic.

 

New electronic scales just arrived. 13.29g and edge attached. This coin was purchased from a retired senior military officer in the Roman city of Chester, UK.

 

That's a tad on the heavy side but seems in range for the type.

Consult this search string for a range of values; these coins can go from $50-$2000 depending on condition.

https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.as...cords=100&SearchOnSale=False&Unassigned=False

 

Looks like a nice coin of a popular type, as for pricing here is a list of sold in CNG archives just look for one in similar condition and you will get an idea of market value.
https://www.cngcoins.com/Search.asp...R_TYPE_ID_2=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_4=1

 

Would prefer one of you experts to tell me...…...my guess would be about $400-500...….but saw one sell much higher...…….hope the weight and rim scan helped.

 

I think 200-300 would be upper limit for your coin, I bought mine for 196 AUD from a Vcoin dealer a few years back.

 

marbury518. Crocodiles are usually the emblem of Egypt. On Roman coins referring to that province. The crocodile chained to the palm branch could be Augustus power over Egypt. Could be linked with Cleopatra VII.

 

OK but your example seems to have chopped off Agrippa's face.

 

Hi. Agrippa's chopped off face wasn't my doing, I assure you, marbury518. Is the villain lurking about here somewhere ???

 

There are a few things on the OP that make me think it is a cast, particularly the odd seperation vertically down Agrippa's face. Weight is not much help unless significantly below or above the range for these. I hate to condemn authentic vcoins, so this is just my opinion based on the image.

 

These issues are notoriously poorly centered; there's so much going on with that coin that it's difficult to get it all on one flan. This fact explains two things: 1) Why collectors of this coin may have a greater tolerance for off-centered strikes; and 2) Why collectors might pay a premium for a coin as well centered as yours.

But how much of a premium? That depends on the collector. Yours has a pleasing even wear, but the details are not as sharp as on issues that bring $400-500. This is why I'd agree that $300 would be an upper limit for your coin.

But by all means, if you can get $500 or more for that coin, more power to you. You asked for input on value. You received links showing ranges. Then you asked for specific estimates, and now you're getting them, though they seem to be lower than you want. Ultimately, the market will decide. Maybe offer it at $500 or more somewhere and see if you have a taker. 30-60 days at a given price point will probably tell you more than I can.

 

These coins were first used by veterans of Augustus and Agrippa's war against Antony and Cleopatra. The city was founded as a colony for retired veterans who would be quite proud of chaining that crocodile.

 

Yes, possibly many military veterans would be proud of chaining a crocodile. Seems there was also a warrior saint of the Greek Church. A legend of him tells of him having a dragon at his feet, occasionally a crocodile. But another saint was also called Theodore, and it may have been him who was formerly a patron saint of Venice.