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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;gxseries, post: 81068, member: 4373&quot;]Hello GDJMSP and foundinrolls, thank you very much for your inputs. Sorry for the awful image, the image color seemed to be wierd when I did a color scan which I opted to do a black and white scan. Hence that awkard color effect is what you see in the end. Afterall, I did have minor concerns that there might be some lame scammers who want to use my large images... regardless, this is the better image of the color - sorry I don&#039;t have a better than than this as I have locked them away far far away from me... <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.geocities.com/coinshq/4ruble_coins.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Another image is here which I drew in some lines. </p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7218/1730editedlines9zy.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Red to show the possible overstrike</p><p>Green to show a countermark</p><p>Blue to show the double strike</p><p><br /></p><p>As you can see the red line does shows some strange outline. Please note that I have not quite finished the lines as they are a lot finer than I could see with my loop. I honestly have no idea what the most underlying image could be but I believe I can see a sceptor on the right side of the image. It could be an older planchet if not foreign planchets. Both cases have happened before. Although who really knows - it could just be the same coin but accidently flipped over to get struck by the obverse image twice which is what you see currently. </p><p><br /></p><p>Another comment on the reverse side is it is very clear that this coin was struck twice and that is why you can see such doubling around the wing&#039;s feathers and legs. However there are still two oddities in the obverse, which is the improper strike of the crown whereas the original strike does feature a full crown. Another point of why two stars appear there is still a mystery (one appears right after the text PYB/\b and the year 1730). That is something I never got to see in any catalogue so far... </p><p><br /></p><p>Overall, this coin is most definately an double strike, as it wouldn&#039;t even fit in a 2x2 but in a 2.5x2.5 (if I remember right...). As for the overstrike bit, I guess that is still under investigation... <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>And yes Russia was notorious for it&#039;s overstriking as they couldn&#039;t be bothered to melt down the old planchets and make new ones.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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