Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by mwhistle, Dec 2, 2009.
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Im a new guy here and i think this is a extremly informative website, cudos to everyone who contributes.
that said this is a great topic and i want to thank everyone who has responded....
i have a 2 questions regarding this topic.
1) i have some half dollars that have unattractive toneing, iwould like to have them certified. If send them to a tpg to get graded will they "dip" them to remove the toning and then grade them?
2) i had recently sent some coins in to be certified by ngc. the grade posted on the website said ms, there was no number and the details said cleaned or improper cleaning. does this that the coins are mint state, in other words they would be a minimum grade of ms 60?
and just to follow up if i sent the coins that ngc claims to be cleaned to another top tier grading service (pcgs or anacs) what are the chances that that grading company would agree with their determination?
i would really appreciate help on this topic
Usually - no they would not dip them, they would grade them as is. That said, there have been reports that some coins were first dipped and then graded.
No, it means that the coins have MS details but that they were harshly cleaned. This means the coins are ungradeable.
About 99.99% of the time they will agree.
Thanks for any help!
Not necessarily would it still be desirable, collectible yes, but maybe not desirable. It would depend on the cleaning and how the coin looks. I did notice that PCGS AU details coin went for about 800 or so on heritage. It really depends on how the coin looks and the type of cleaning on what it might bring.
Especially zinc clad coins. Water and zinc have a fast response to each other, and it's not pretty.
Here's my example:
Fire damaged as purchased on eBay:
And after days of toil in the laborrrrrrrratory, here it is now...
I am not giving advise I'm just saying the secret is in the article.
Yes, send it to a TPG to clean it. The idea behind that is, if they screw it up, they’ll overlook it, but if you screw it up...
I expected around 10-30% of the market value. For example, a 1918-D valued at $25 in G-4 would sell for about $5.
Basically, the value drop is massive, especially if you're talking acid dating.
That's basically the biggest tell, @manny9655, the disturbance of the mint luster. But this is the thing. Evaluate the coin for the degree of it. You should do the same with scratches. Then, adjust your bid or appraisal accordingly. In other words, don't see compromised luster or scratches and say, "cleaned," and therefore "worthless." Forget the abstract label. Keep your eye on the coin, and assess the value of it by what you see or don't see on it. There's my advice. FWIW...
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