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<p>[QUOTE="Kasia, post: 3967310, member: 31533"]I deliberately left it open as to whether the coin deserved a 68 assessment or not. I, myself, love the high-grade moderns and do appreciate how few do make it with tpgs. Tpgs grade quite hard in these, keeping the levels to 67 or below, even when one thinks it should perhaps be a 68. </p><p><br /></p><p>Anyways, I have issues with the idea that a coin needs to have no marks/abrasions "visible to the naked eye". As someone who has needed to wear glasses nearly my whole life, and now having had cataracts and having vision correcting surgery, I am quite aware that "visible to the naked eye" can be quite subjective. There are people who have excellent vision and those who may not but think (because they don't realize their limitations) they do. So one person's naked eye may see tiny abrasions and say it is a lower grade and others may say all abrasions or ticks are not visible to the naked eye and call it higher. </p><p><br /></p><p>As a way of showing how this perception can be, until I had my first cataract and got a new lens implanted in my eye (thus making that eye go from being extremely near-sighted to slightly far-sighted), I had never since early childhood realized that what I perceived as near or total darkness at night (without glasses on) was actually very bright. In other words, without glasses, in the middle of the night, I could not only easily navigate my way out in a dark house at night (or even outside in moonlight) but I became aware that the last 50 years that that was not true had nothing to do with the ambient light allowing sight, but was fully dependent on my own eye defects. </p><p><br /></p><p>You well may have great eyesight for this standard of coins, but not all do. Therefore it has to be somewhat speculative/subjective and treated that way.</p><p><br /></p><p>Since I cannot trust "to the naked eye" for the smallest issues on a coin, I have to compensate by other means. Which to me, means looking at the coin with a magnifier and grading what I see as to what someone with perfect eyesight and education in coins would say is visible without magnification. I do a lot of CRH to get my experience and have for close to 20 years now.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Kasia, post: 3967310, member: 31533"]I deliberately left it open as to whether the coin deserved a 68 assessment or not. I, myself, love the high-grade moderns and do appreciate how few do make it with tpgs. Tpgs grade quite hard in these, keeping the levels to 67 or below, even when one thinks it should perhaps be a 68. Anyways, I have issues with the idea that a coin needs to have no marks/abrasions "visible to the naked eye". As someone who has needed to wear glasses nearly my whole life, and now having had cataracts and having vision correcting surgery, I am quite aware that "visible to the naked eye" can be quite subjective. There are people who have excellent vision and those who may not but think (because they don't realize their limitations) they do. So one person's naked eye may see tiny abrasions and say it is a lower grade and others may say all abrasions or ticks are not visible to the naked eye and call it higher. As a way of showing how this perception can be, until I had my first cataract and got a new lens implanted in my eye (thus making that eye go from being extremely near-sighted to slightly far-sighted), I had never since early childhood realized that what I perceived as near or total darkness at night (without glasses on) was actually very bright. In other words, without glasses, in the middle of the night, I could not only easily navigate my way out in a dark house at night (or even outside in moonlight) but I became aware that the last 50 years that that was not true had nothing to do with the ambient light allowing sight, but was fully dependent on my own eye defects. You well may have great eyesight for this standard of coins, but not all do. Therefore it has to be somewhat speculative/subjective and treated that way. Since I cannot trust "to the naked eye" for the smallest issues on a coin, I have to compensate by other means. Which to me, means looking at the coin with a magnifier and grading what I see as to what someone with perfect eyesight and education in coins would say is visible without magnification. I do a lot of CRH to get my experience and have for close to 20 years now.[/QUOTE]
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